Originally Posted by Tully Mars

I honestly did not mean to depress you, or anyone for that matter. Although it does depress me. I look at my new grand daughter and realize she and quite possibly her children, will be paying off the debts of the Bush tax cuts and the wars. How depressing is that?

But that's how I see this issue and how I viewed it as it unfolded. I always thought Bush and the neo-cons really squandered an opportunity to unite the nation after 9-11. Seriously "W's" support was something like 94% right after 9-11 and I remember seeing those numbers and thinking "who the hell doesn't support the POTUS at a time like this? We are clearly at war, WTF are other 6% thinking?" The the talk about invading Iraq came out and I was completely lost. W's dad said at the end, or near the end, of the 1st Gulf War he didn't go in and take out Saddam because "it would have created a a power vacuum" and there would be no way of knowing what would result from that. Well what do we have in Iraq now? Someday we're going to have to leave and my guess is it'll be a mess when we do.

If Bush and the neo-cons would have focused on Afghan, been hawkish on spending and paying for that war we'd be a much different country today. Bush never vetoed one spending bill. The debt increased dramatically during his admin. His Admin. started TARP and the bail outs. Now the same people who we're 100% with him are suddenly worried about spending and the debt and they hate the bail outs and TARP. They, like all politicians, hate it when the other side is writing checks but have no problems when their side is doing the rubber check thing.