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Old 04-17-2010, 08:10 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth View Post
I was actually quite straight forward, only addressing the failure to pay a tax on weapons. You brought religion and sexual abuse in to it. I merely called you on the fact that those weren't brought up to the public until after the disastrous first raid.
Oh, your posts are about failing to pay taxes on weapons! Well thank you for finally saying so. And for the record, you were the one who brought religion into it by using the Waco incident as an example. The sexual abuse I brought up to further illustrate that the whole situation isn't a neat package about religious discrimination. You know, your argument. Whatever it is. I think it's that the Branch Davidians in question have a religious belief that stockpiling illegal weapons and not paying tax on them is doing God's will. Or something.

Honestly though, in matters of the federal powers in the U.S., I think the whole Waco thing is a minor blip in the grand scheme of things. In the least, it's not quite the best example of why one shouldn't pay federal taxes. Is that what you're arguing?

What are you arguing?

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you mentioned the allegations to try to bolster your already tenuous position that the waco compound folks were originally raided because they failed to pay a tax on a weapon.
As mentioned, I brought up the sexual abuse allegations to point out that the situation isn't as straightforward as you implied. I don't know exactly what happened in terms of releasing the information or whether it was leaked or whatever, but whether the allegations are true or whether there indeed should have been better investigations into the matter----well, isn't this a pretty convoluted situation?

You said (or implied, at least) that freedom of religion was at stake, and this following up your little photo essay, which, by the way wasn't very comprehensive or enlightening or even very strong in terms of making your point. It wasn't until a few posts afterwards that I even realized it was a picture of the Waco incident. That's a photo from the Waco incident, right?

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if you wish to call it that, fine. that's not what i meant though and you know it.
I don't know exactly what you mean, and that's the problem. You don't flesh out your points well enough. I get lost.

Tell me this, then: what is a "threat" to a government's power if it isn't a threat to established law and order?

You make it sound like the U.S. government is tyrannical (do you even vote? I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't), which comes back to my original comment. I don't think we're as oppressed as you implied in your little photo essay. But, alas, there wasn't much to go on. Maybe you could come up with a better narrative of images.
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