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Old 02-26-2010, 10:24 AM   #25 (permalink)
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1. Shooting from an improper stance: People tend to develop very bad habits when using laser sights....they stop bringing their weapon up into a proper shooting position and adopt sloppy techniques. Shooters then keep those bad habits when they shoot during daytime conditions where a laser sight is useless.
That's interesting, because I don't have bad habits from using lasers. Nor does my wife. Also, isn't the proper shooting position the one that's going to give you the advantage over the VCA? So by your analogy, I should halt all training that doesn't teach me to stand in a stall and shoot isosceles? Should I stop training from behind cover while lying down or from a seated position cross draw - because that teaches me bad habits, too? The truth is, CT Lasers are awesome at allowing you the advantage in certain situations. Why wouldn't one learn to use all his/her advantages?

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Also, shooters cannot shoot as fast when they are waiting to reacquire a laser dot which bounces all over the target following a shot, traditional techniques of reacquiring a flash sight picture...or no sight picture for double taps just don't carry over well to using a laser sight. If you notice the crimson trace commercials the person shooting (a professional shooter) is looking through his sights and the laser just happens to be on...he doesn't appear to be using it at all because it would only slow him down.
The man in the video is not in a compromised position. But your statement makes mine even more clear. Notice how the man doesn't have bad habits due to using the laser. In fact, he has pretty damn good habits. I'll agree, if you DEPEND on the laser ALL THE TIME, it can slow you down. However, it's an excellent tool. It sure doesn't slow you down when you can't see your sights and sight picture at the same time.

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Searching: People often get in the habit of simply moving the red-dot onto the target vs. using the sights with the laser as a backup. The problem with this is that if the person doesn't have a wall or a surface behind the target where the laser dot will be easily visible you often won't know which direction to move in order to get on target and will 'search' around with your pistol until you can see the dot, wasting a lot of time. This is especially true in dim but not dark situations.
Bad habits. Train properly.

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Dead Batteries: I have several times pulled my weapon out only to find the batteries were dead. I am not sure whether there was some sort of slow battery drain or whether I was somehow triggering the sight while my weapon was holstered, but the result was the same...the sight I expected to have wasn't working.
Bad habits. it's not your remote control. It's your life line, especially if you're LE. Batteries are predictable. Deal with it. I've never found dead batteries in my equipment because I know they need changing on a schedule and I maintain my equipment. I've had a blue gun with CT grips on it for three years. I use it as a demo while at the shop. It gets used several times a day almost every day. I've just recently changed the batteries. They lasted two+ years. May I suggest you also do the pencil test on your weapon to make sure the firing pin is still in working order.

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Fragility: I have had two different crimson trace grips on my work-gun and I broke both of them.
Interesting.

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5. Lasers are a two-way beam of light: You become more visible and poor laser discipline (light discipline is something that has to be learned and practiced or you wills screw it up in an emergency) can telegraph your intentions and location to an intruder, allowing them to prepare and maneuver effectively against you.
This is self protection, not stalking the bad guy. If you're hunting down the bad guy, you're moving in the wrong direction. Furthermore, If you have your finger in register (high on the frame, out of the trigger guard) like you should have, your finger automatically covers the laser. It should only illuminate when your finger moves to the trigger. How hard is that? It's the first and most important rule you should know.


I don't knock the CT lasers. They're a very good addition to your carry pistol. I completely agree that training is paramount. To all. In every instance.

CT lasers are the only lasers I would use on my carry pistol as they are passive on, passive off. I wouldn't hang anything off the rail of my carry pistol.

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FWIW I took my wife to the range the other day because I was not confident she was still familiar with her defensive pistol. I loaded it, put it in the same condition she carries/maintains it and handed it to her. Sure enough she tried to shoot it without taking the safety off and then looked at it trying to figure out what was wrong. My lesson learned was that confidence won't put rounds on target, you have to train or all the gizmos in the world won't help you.
Your wife carries this pistol and she doesn't know how to use it? You loaded it for her and handed it to her? she was dumbfounded by the so called safety? You mean to tell me that the safety will actually be safe for the VCA and not your wife when the real shit hits the fan? Interesting.

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