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Old 02-10-2010, 08:49 AM   #39 (permalink)
RogueGypsy
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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
or the idea that we should cut everyone off of welfare and force them to work in an economy with 10% unemployment

I re-read my post and obviously omitted a system for the truly needy, whom I do believe exist and do deserve our help. I would not want nor intentionally suggest they be deserted.

The rest however are dirt bags. If you have doubts, buy some Kevlar and hang out in the projects. The vast majority of the residents I've encountered are junkies or baby factories. The former openly discuss wanting more kids for a bigger payday. Sure they get the most press, but I've met may others walking around in daily life. People too fat to comfortably move about. I don't think I, or anyone else should have to pay for their poor diet choices. People with too many kids to support themselves. People who've never worked a day in their lives because their parents didn't. People with nondescript 'medical conditions' . For every 1 deserving person I've met, there are 4 or 5 who are just plain lazy. This is not something local to my locale either, I've lived all over the country in my lifetime and found the same in each place East, West, North and South.

As for forcing people to work in an economy with 10% unemployment. To me sounds much better than paying someone to sit around and do nothing in an economy with 10% unemployment. At least working there is some return. If the check is being written anyway, why shouldn't they earn it?

Of course I'm a little biased, I'm usually working 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet. The third job I work usually covers the amount the government takes from me to support those who don't work. So I'm sure you can see where that makes me wonder why they can't support themselves or contribute in some way.

Very few people are completely useless, every day I see disabled and impaired people leading happy and productive lives. Suggesting anyone short of a quadriplegic or a similarly physically or mentally debilitated person is incapable of helping to sustain themselves is simply untrue. Fuck look at Stephen Hawking, he really makes them all look like cunts. He's strapped in a chair drooling on himself, but some guy with a twitch needs our support???

Welfare has become a way of life for many families in this country and it needs to come to an end.




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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru View Post
Oh, I also got hung up on the idea that there's a problem with welfare recipients having more children to get bigger cheques....yet no mention that many welfare recipients only use the system temporarily.

Before killing a system, it's best to know how it works and how it's used.
There was only brief mention of those who use the system properly because they are not the problem. And although omitted from the previous post, there should be a system in place for those who are truly needy. I am very familiar with how the system works through both recipients of the benefits and those who disperse them.

I can appreciate those who like to see only the good in the world, unfortunately that view rarely solves any problems or creates any progress. It is not an idea that recipients have move children to get bigger checks, it is a very sad reality.

---------- Post added at 08:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:47 AM ----------

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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
or the idea that we should cut everyone off of welfare and force them to work in an economy with 10% unemployment
What does a bad economy have to do with ones abilities?
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