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Shell · 01-16-2010, 06:00 AM

First of all, this is not a color issue...if people would stop calling everything a color issue then racism would cease. Can't people be black and white with opposing views that have nothing to do with color?

Secondly, this "pact with the devil" is an historical event (see last paragraph to view my efforts to find proof of this event*). The Haitian guy's response is his opinion that their freedom from slavery was orchestrated by God....maybe it was, maybe it wasn't...but that's not the issue. The issue is that a pact was made by the Haitians at one time in history with the devil...not with God. And Robertson is saying that the devil acknowledged their request.

Thirdly, a blend of upperclass, middleclass, boonies, and ghettos in the state of NC is hardly the same as the contrast between the Dominican Republic and Haiti...it goes way beyond monetary issues. We're talking multi-recurrences of natural disasters, and a whole host of other issues as well.

*Is it a "true story" that the Haitians made this pact with the devil to serve his spirits in exchange for their freedom from slavery? Here's what I am finding so far:

"On 14 August 1791, a black slave and witch doctor named Boukman led the slaves in a voodoo ritual. They sacrificed a pig and drank its blood to form a pact with the devil, whereby they agreed to serve the spirits of the island for 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French. The slave rebellion commenced on 22 August 1791, and after 13 years of conflict, the slaves won their independence. On 1 January 1804 they declared Haiti the world's first independent black republic. An iron statue of a pig stands in Port-au-Prince to commemorate the "Boukman Contract". ...Since independence, Haiti has been in a continual state of political struggle and wracked with poverty.

Let me say...my heart is with the Haitians and for Robertson to make this comment at the time of this horrendous tragedy, albeit factual, is insensitive at best...but then Robertson has never been one to beat around the bush.

01-16-2010, 06:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	First of all, this is not a color issue...if people would stop calling everything a color issue then racism would cease. Can't people be black and white with opposing views that have nothing to do with color? Secondly, this "pact with the devil" is an historical event (see last paragraph to view my efforts to find proof of this event). The Haitian guy's response is his opinion that their freedom from slavery was orchestrated by God....maybe it was, maybe it wasn't...but that's not the issue. The issue is that a pact was made by the Haitians at one time in history with the devil...not with God. And Robertson is saying that the devil acknowledged their request. Thirdly, a blend of upperclass, middleclass, boonies, and ghettos in the state of NC is hardly the same as the contrast between the Dominican Republic and Haiti...it goes way beyond monetary issues. We're talking multi-recurrences of natural disasters, and a whole host of other issues as well. Is it a "true story" that the Haitians made this pact with the devil to serve his spirits in exchange for their freedom from slavery? Here's what I am finding so far: "On 14 August 1791, a black slave and witch doctor named Boukman led the slaves in a voodoo ritual. They sacrificed a pig and drank its blood to form a pact with the devil, whereby they agreed to serve the spirits of the island for 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French. The slave rebellion commenced on 22 August 1791, and after 13 years of conflict, the slaves won their independence. On 1 January 1804 they declared Haiti the world's first independent black republic. An iron statue of a pig stands in Port-au-Prince to commemorate the "Boukman Contract". ...Since independence, Haiti has been in a continual state of political struggle and wracked with poverty. Let me say...my heart is with the Haitians and for Robertson to make this comment at the time of this horrendous tragedy, albeit factual, is insensitive at best...but then Robertson has never been one to beat around the bush. __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss Last edited by Shell; 01-16-2010 at 07:32 AM..