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Originally Posted by rahl
Why is it so hard to answer a direct question with a direct answer.
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It is not.
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You made a statement, I called you on it, then you changed your position, I called you on it again and now your try to avoid the question.
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I am confused by what you say "called you on it". I pointed out a bias and conflict that I am fully aware of. I am not sure what you want. I have a bias that is based on my feelings. I don't think it is fair, I don;t think it is reasonable for me to be subjected to the biases of others, nor them to mine. My conclusion is that perhaps government should not be involved. I don't know how government can reasonably referee this. Do you?
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Ace every now and then you do raise some good points, but when it comes to asking you questions for which you have no answers you panic and change subject.
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I get accused of so many bad things it is difficult for me to keep them all straight.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
I can have an emotional response to the issue (compassion for the uninsured, for example, or frustration with those who oppose UHC based on selfish reasons).
I can also have non-emotional responses to the FACTS contained in the proposed bill.
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This is what I do not know how to do. This is what I think is not possible to do. Even if I am presented with a simple math problem, 2+2=4, I have an emotional response, I get a good feeling knowing the answer, I get a positive response to the concept of addition, meaning growth, expansion. It brings back memories of primary education and makes me feel good. I don't know how you can look at facts/information devoid of emotional response.
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You seem to conflate the two.
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True.
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Saying "I have a gut feeling that Obama's government option plan will lead to a single payer system" is not an emotional response. It's projecting your fears/biases onto something where there are no facts to support it.
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I gave justification for my view. The justification is based on my observations and knowledge of economic and business systems. True, I can not predict the future with certainty, but I can project expected results in an informed manner.
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It would be like me saying "I support Obama's plan because my gut tells me that if it passes, we'll all get a free pony."
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The probability of that would be close to zero, however, I think the probability of a government option restricting choice in the private sector is much greater than zero and is high enought for reasonable people to be concerned (assuming they care) and I actually think overtime is close certainty. and I clearly state it is my view and that is not a "fact". On the other hand are you suggesting the opposite is a "fact"? If true what is the difference between what you are doing and what I am doing?