[sorry, i don't know how to quote from another thread, if someone can fix it, that would be cool]
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Originally Posted by Crompsin
Nope, I'm talking about E3s that can barely rig a ruck going on week long field problems in December
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i don't know the whole story, but an E1 in a unit for one week going to the field is not hazing, it's training. that's what the squad leader is for, that's how you learn.
making the smallest guy in the unit carry the 60 on a 10 mile roadmarch can be seen as hazing, or maybe they just want him to get stronger, but i think its hazing. making an E-3 with less time in the army than the total amount of time i've waited for my chute to open go to the field with his unit, in any condition, for any amount of time, is how he learns.
i always hated the phrase "if it aint raining, you aint training." fuck you, if it aint raining, i aint wet. you don't have to train to be miserable, that comes pretty naturally. yes, there is a point when the suckfest just becomes a suckfest and you no longer are learning. but again, that's not hazing, that's shitty leadership.