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Old 06-25-2009, 05:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq View Post
no, the three of us have stated that the onus is on you to frame the discussion better.
Okay. If you three say so...

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You'll notice that if you want discussion, then you should have some facts or figures to back up your assertations.
Conspiracy-theory is conspiracy-theory because there is no proper facts or evidence. As we know 'facts' and 'figures' are the instruments of spin doctors.

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Again, saying "But I read it on other forums..."
Who said such?

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"There's lots of google evidence if you just search"
In this case there is very little, if not none. Google-bombing is part of the reason, Google presses popular pages to the top, so the redundant views of the dominant discourse fill the first hundred pages of search results. Thus, the Google results will exactly contradict my thesis.

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if you'd like make such kinds of statements and musings without the burden of formulating a discussion, ala wondering aloud to yourself and maybe someone in the room will answer, we have blog space for such things.
I find blogs very alienating and isolating. Thanks but no thanks.

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But here, in our discussion forums, we expect, if not demand discussion diving boards to leap off from.
I am in the business of taking down frames, not of putting them up. Some people need all their ideas pre-packaged and pre-formatted. Others are more creative and free-thinking.

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The expectation is that you make a supposition,
Supposition means prejudice. Something I try to avoid.

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give your opinion of what you're reading to start off the discussion.
Sorry, I try to be aloof from opinion.

I have not given my opinion about pedophiles or about priests for a very good reason. In fact I must confess that I am not impartial, I have some very strong views about pedophiles and about priests!

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really lots in Canada? SHOW me. Don't tell me, SHOW me that's how and why you believe what you say.
Once I have enough post to put links I shall, here are a few article's titles that seem to relate,

"Anglican Church in Canada on Verge of Bankruptcy"
"Anglican church in Canada says it faces bankruptcy from child abuse claims"
"Anglican Synod may face financial bankruptcy"
"Canada Mulls Church Aid In Sex Abuse Scandal."

As it turns out, I have just also found an article that has the issue framed rather similar to how I have framed it,

"The Anglican Church of Canada's continuing struggle with its colonial history"

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bankruptcies happen for lots of reasons, from protecting assets to reallocating debt. It isn't just about not having money.
This point is probably a digression; there is no shortage of info on the fiscal cost to the Church; some went bankrupt, some were bailed out by the state (similar to the bank crisis?).

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