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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
but what you're implying is that CATHOLIC diocese are going bankrupt, which is an entirely different thing and completely unrelated to the point of your post.
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Did I? Maybe unconsciously, maybe "implying"?
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The diocese that have filed for reorganization (Chapter 11, not Chapter 7) have done so because their insurance limits have been exhausted by sexual molestation claims (SML) with other outstanding SML claims still in the wings.
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So? No money. Why else do bankruptcies happen?
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Churches going bankrupt? I'm sure that the occasional Protestant church goes belly-up....
You should also realize that the only diocese that have declared bankruptcy have been in the US, which pretty much negates discussion of Canadian and/or Australian practices since the ramifications you claim simply aren't there.
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Looks to be lots in Canada actually. Not in Australia though. Wonder why?
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I agree with Cyn. There's not much to discuss here. And if anyone thinks I'm being too harsh on a newbie, I welcome any comments or concerns voiced via PM.
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Good, then the article makes more or less good sense. Nothing to discuss, old news.
I posted this on several fora, including a Christian site and a pedophile site. They had lots to discuss!
I'll paraphrase a few:
- This is essentially a conspiracy-theory; there is no smoking gun for a large cultural movement involving millions of people over centuries.
- The majority of the victims were male, and not pre-pubescent, therefore this is an issue of homosexuality and the Church, not one of pedophilia.
- It is interesting how late many Natives and animal species have survived almost untouched into the 21st century: uncontacted tribes still exist, many North American Natives do not speak English, the assimilation has not been so complete at all.
- There was no need for a cover-up, Anglos are well aware, though in denial, of the violence and expoitation they put on the Earth's people.
- Analysis: readers understood the article as either a defense of or an attack on the Christians, or pedophiles (or Americans); but my views on both I have not shared (the America connection hardly crossed my mind, but was much mentioned). This reinforces, to me, the conspiratorial nature of the thing.
I think this sums up the case well: 'cutting off your nose despite your face'. I'm not sure what this is called in logic, the grocery stores do the same: bring a bag from home to save the Earth: meanwhile, every product in the shop is already in a bag or box, far worse than the one shopping bag... not to mention the whole chain of production and distribution....