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Originally Posted by Rekna
So what should we discuss? This is just a statement....
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If you think so, that is good. I wasn't sure. I can't find this explained like so on the 'net. But I've been looking at North American Native history these days, and this Priest-scandal sort of popped into my head. I've been thinking that the religious and the Church have passed from establishment to outsider these days.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
I'm not sure you really understand or know what you are talking about.
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Not sure I really understand? I'm sure I don't -- !
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I submit that you need to frame this discussion a bit better into something that can be discussed.
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I was hoping that the frame would develop 'on-the-fly'. The framelessness of the thing seems to be the first frame that's come up. The thing always looks better framed... you see, there was a little image that I wanted to put at the top of a Native class, a school house, and some priests in the back, I think that would help, once I get to 15 posts I'll go back up and edit in the image I have in mind.
Modern times has the habit of packaging things. When all the frames are gone, what's left? Modernity is unstable with this emptiness, science offers no certain evidence, only theory and hypothesis, conspiracy theory is a mirror of official media, fast pace, provocative, vague, suggestive....
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The Indian nations do not necessarily follow any of the US laws on their lands.
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I'm having hard time sorting much out re. the laws. It is a mountain of paper and documents and most of it written in the frame of the colonialist or neo-colonialist.
I was gonna include the sentence "The frame: soap and Christianity was not going to hold much longer", but deleted it, so that is a frame I wonder about, what is the nature of the post-colonial frame? If nationality has no meaning for a borderless world, what will become of the Natives, do they have a new shot at liberation, or is the situation even more hopelessly obfuscated and spun?
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The Churches are far from bankrupt since many are bankrolled by the Vatican.
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Probably the stories about New World churches going bankrupt is just media. Not sure?
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As far as the Residential School System, if you're referring to the idea that the American Indians were also part of the same Lost Generation of Australia, I ask that you please back up what you are saying with some sort of facts or evidence.
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Seems to me they are very similar?
Google shows thousands of articles for "pedophile priest australia". Pretty much the same gist as the Canada ones.
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Onus is on the thread starter to post a coherent opening post and frame the discussion, this is important especially in the politics and philosophy forums.
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Ambiguity has a meaning too. It wouldn't be right for me to tell you what and how to think about this. Similar with the conspiracy theory genre. The evidence is elusive. Everywhere and no where. It is in secret reports, and it is in front of you. This article is essentially an accusation of war crimes and cover-up, naming names is as useless as trying to indite George Bush -- or Joe Public: a prawn sandwich is the result of a global system of international exploitation, the Australian, for example, oppresses the Native every time he turns on a light or wears a wool sweater....