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tisonlyi · 09-29-2008, 06:37 PM

You're both our children, the US and Canada, and in the end you should hate us for it, as we're coming to despise ourselves.

We now have a _c_onservative party talking about massive spending commitments for public works and cheerleading for banking bailouts of one sort or another.

*shakes head*

I'd prefer labour to stay in power for social reasons, but the Tories for their sheer lack of ability to ever manage an economy without driving, headlong, into the debt train coming the other way.

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India has one common language, a derivative of one of their own several thousand years removed: English. Without it, there'd be no India, no Pakistan as single nation states (though perhaps a federation). That much is true.

I still feel that Gandhi is one of the greatest BRITISH heroes ever to have walked the planet. Why? It was his reliance on British 'fair play' and 'Christianity' as a man who was well grounded in the higher echelons of the UK for a time, that at first paved the way for his passive rebellion. Later he revelled in Indian religion and identity, but still, his early British training as a lawyer and a 'gentleman' shone through IMHO.

Imagine a non-violent rebel versus the French or Spanish Empires. Exactly.

If you think we went quietly into the night though, think about Amritsar. Ponder Burma. Malaysia. Honk Kong. Suez. The leftovers of Empire in S. Africa, Zimbabwe(yes, i know we opposed Rhodesian apartheid-independence), etc, etc. etc

We had a massive war to smash our Empire and thoughts of its upkeep from us, though we still did our best with reactionaries in power. (reactionaries! yes!)

The Empire brought much good, and begot much better, though it also brought untold misery and begot much worse.

Smallpox Blankets Canada or Smallpox Blankets United States

No power in the world is ever benevolent.

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Oh, and Obama Vs McCain... Obama.

Only because I prefer leaders with IQ/EQ higher than chest measurements. In cm.

09-29-2008, 06:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
tisonlyi Nothing	You're both our children, the US and Canada, and in the end you should hate us for it, as we're coming to despise ourselves. We now have a _c_onservative party talking about massive spending commitments for public works and cheerleading for banking bailouts of one sort or another. shakes head I'd prefer labour to stay in power for social reasons, but the Tories for their sheer lack of ability to ever manage an economy without driving, headlong, into the debt train coming the other way. -- India has one common language, a derivative of one of their own several thousand years removed: English. Without it, there'd be no India, no Pakistan as single nation states (though perhaps a federation). That much is true. I still feel that Gandhi is one of the greatest BRITISH heroes ever to have walked the planet. Why? It was his reliance on British 'fair play' and 'Christianity' as a man who was well grounded in the higher echelons of the UK for a time, that at first paved the way for his passive rebellion. Later he revelled in Indian religion and identity, but still, his early British training as a lawyer and a 'gentleman' shone through IMHO. Imagine a non-violent rebel versus the French or Spanish Empires. Exactly. If you think we went quietly into the night though, think about Amritsar. Ponder Burma. Malaysia. Honk Kong. Suez. The leftovers of Empire in S. Africa, Zimbabwe(yes, i know we opposed Rhodesian apartheid-independence), etc, etc. etc We had a massive war to smash our Empire and thoughts of its upkeep from us, though we still did our best with reactionaries in power. (reactionaries! yes!) The Empire brought much good, and begot much better, though it also brought untold misery and begot much worse. Smallpox Blankets Canada or Smallpox Blankets United States No power in the world is ever benevolent. -- Oh, and Obama Vs McCain... Obama. Only because I prefer leaders with IQ/EQ higher than chest measurements. In cm. __________________ "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill, 1937 --{ORLY?}--