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Old 09-24-2008, 04:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Foster children taken from grandparents over single spanking incident

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FOUR children were removed from their grandparents' care and put into separate foster homes, allegedly because the grandmother smacked one of them on the bottom after the child tried to climb into a drain.

The children had lived on and off with their grandparents for six years while their mother battled drug addiction. The children were removed in December by the NSW Department of Community Services (DOCS) and have been living in foster homes, separated from each other.

Details of the case are included in a submission to the Wood inquiry into child welfare, kept secret by inquiry staff but obtained by The Australian.

The inquiry is investigating the system of child welfare in NSW, but intends to keep secret 90 per cent of the submissions it receives.

The Australian has been publishing some of the secret submissions with the permission of the authors.

A woman who is close to the grandparent case, who cannot be named because it would identify the children, said the four siblings, had been "in and out" of their grandparents' home for years.

"Those grandparents loved those kids," she said.

"They were really nice people. They weren't hitting the kids willy-nilly.

"What happened was, the children had been with their mum and it had gone badly wrong again.

"They were put with the grandparents and the idea was to try to make it more permanent."

Such permanent placements are often resisted by parents, because it means they lose not only their children but the Centrelink and other benefits associated with being full-time carers.

The woman said the grandmother "saw the littlest one heading down a drain pipe and grabbed him with one hand and smacked him.

"It was shock. It was sudden, like a moment of frustration, or fright, a startled reflex."

Soon after the incident, DOCS case workers visited the children at school to interview them, as part of the process of making the placement with the grandparents permanent.

"They said to the little one: do your grandparents ever hit you, or smack you? And of course he said: 'Yes, she smacked me last week.'

"He was just telling the truth and it spiralled from there."

The children were immediately removed from the grandparents' home "and because they couldn't find emergency carers to take all four of them, they were split up.

"Never mind the grandparents for a minute. It's very traumatic for small children. It's like they are being punished."

The grandparents appealed to the Administrative Decisions Tribunal and the case is now under review.

"The problem is, it takes time," the woman said. "The children were removed before Christmas, so it's been nine months, and nine months is a long time in anybody's life, and a long time in a child's life."
I don't think this even comes down to supporting or not supporting hitting children. A snap judgment like the grandmother made is a perfect example of how negative reinforcement to discourage bad behavior can help a child to stay out of danger until he's mentally developed enough to use judgment like an adult. I doubt that anyone faults the grandmother here, but if you do, I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

What this seems like to me is a case of zero tolerance and inefficient bureaucracy coming together to hurt a family. Foster children certainly have to be protected from abusive surrogate parents, and at least in the US, abuses that become high-profile tend to reveal systematic failures of Family Services or Child Protective Services to take care of that. It seems that they're very careful to protect these kids in Australia, but why isn't there some sort of oversight that could allow a guardian to make an appointment with the department that handles this and explain to a judge or a social worker that it was a simple swat on the bottom rather than abuse. I would say it's emotionally abusive to take these young children away from a loving family for so long.

Is there a middle ground where we can be sure that kids are safe from abuse and safe from overprotection? It seems to me that there at least needs to be a review of what is asked -- going into detail when a suspicious answer is found -- and some sort of in-between step before children are taken from homes over what might be a misunderstanding. There has to be a balance between allowing abuse and child abuse hysteria (it's not the same as this, but along the same lines.)
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