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pig · 08-14-2008, 03:55 PM

Jesus - what a trainwreck. Following on charlatan's post, I can imagine the following: Clinton gets respectable support, but eventually loses the nomination at the convention. Democrats hail the "democratic" policies of their party. Doubts are allowed to creep into the minds of independent voters, and Obama loses the election to McCain. He's "black," and "liberal," and a number of people say they will vote for him. However, at the polls they just can't pull the lever - despite all the hoopla about "anything but Bush." McCain is an Army man, and after all we're involved in serious military conflict. 2012 rolls around - things aren't substantially "better" than they are now - and Hillary is able to remind Democrat voters that she *almost* won in 2008 - only the controversy over Florida and Michigan surfaced...she should have won...afterall. No one likes old 75 year old "needs to go to Florida" McCain...she did bow out "graciously" at the end...

So I can see that angle. Frankly, this election process for the Democrat nomination has been one complete pile of shit, in my opinion. After Obama seemingly won the nomination, it seemed for a while that it might have been decided. The decision by the Clinton Campaign to "suspened" her campaign, instead of ending it, spoke volumes to me. I wasn't sure if she was holding out for a VP nod, or simply trying to keep getting $$$ to pay off her campaign debts. Frankly, I'm still not convinced. This may be her way to force a VP spot on the ticket. If she looks to get respectable support at the convention, Obama may be compelled to add her to the ticket. It would then help to shore up the consensus of the Democrat party - as much as it could be shored up - and head off a potential 2012 move against him if he looses in 2008. How could she run against the sitting President in 2012, assuming with her support and the lack of ensuing party dissension he can win in 2008?

If this plays out, she will exercise the power of Cheaney, as developed under Bush, and I would suspect between her and former President Bill Clinton, they will have a significant influence on national policy. I'm not necessarily saying that's a bad thing - but between the Bush II and Obama presidencies, we could see a significant shift on the role of the VP in administrative decisions. If you follow the Bush template...VP is a pretty damn sweet place to be.

08-14-2008, 03:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	Jesus - what a trainwreck. Following on charlatan's post, I can imagine the following: Clinton gets respectable support, but eventually loses the nomination at the convention. Democrats hail the "democratic" policies of their party. Doubts are allowed to creep into the minds of independent voters, and Obama loses the election to McCain. He's "black," and "liberal," and a number of people say they will vote for him. However, at the polls they just can't pull the lever - despite all the hoopla about "anything but Bush." McCain is an Army man, and after all we're involved in serious military conflict. 2012 rolls around - things aren't substantially "better" than they are now - and Hillary is able to remind Democrat voters that she almost won in 2008 - only the controversy over Florida and Michigan surfaced...she should have won...afterall. No one likes old 75 year old "needs to go to Florida" McCain...she did bow out "graciously" at the end... So I can see that angle. Frankly, this election process for the Democrat nomination has been one complete pile of shit, in my opinion. After Obama seemingly won the nomination, it seemed for a while that it might have been decided. The decision by the Clinton Campaign to "suspened" her campaign, instead of ending it, spoke volumes to me. I wasn't sure if she was holding out for a VP nod, or simply trying to keep getting $$$ to pay off her campaign debts. Frankly, I'm still not convinced. This may be her way to force a VP spot on the ticket. If she looks to get respectable support at the convention, Obama may be compelled to add her to the ticket. It would then help to shore up the consensus of the Democrat party - as much as it could be shored up - and head off a potential 2012 move against him if he looses in 2008. How could she run against the sitting President in 2012, assuming with her support and the lack of ensuing party dissension he can win in 2008? If this plays out, she will exercise the power of Cheaney, as developed under Bush, and I would suspect between her and former President Bill Clinton, they will have a significant influence on national policy. I'm not necessarily saying that's a bad thing - but between the Bush II and Obama presidencies, we could see a significant shift on the role of the VP in administrative decisions. If you follow the Bush template...VP is a pretty damn sweet place to be. __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style Last edited by pig; 08-14-2008 at 03:58 PM..