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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
There are thousands of people proving you wrong. Very wrong, actually.
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There are? How many of them don't use vitamin supplements (including things like fortified soy milk)? How many people have gone from birth to death without food from any animal sources or vitamin supplements?
Note that I said 'natural' - and to me, vitamin supplements don't count as natural.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
This doesn't mean one cannot thrive as a vegan. It simply means cultures are heterogeneous when it comes to diet, especially modern ones. Most cultures don't eat much beef (or any), does this mean we should all stop?
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Sure, you can thrive as a vegan, if you supplement your diet (B12 is the big one, IIRC). And that's fine. I was specifically arguing against those that claim that veganism is somehow more 'natural' than other dietary choices. I don't have any problem with people choosing veganism (except for those few like the ones described in the OP)
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
It's surprisingly easy to get most of your nutrients without supplementation if you understand food and diet. The typical North American omnivore could likely use more supplementation than a typical vegan. The difference is that most vegans think about a lot about food consciously. Their diet is one of their core values. [Refer to Figaro's excellent post above.]
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Yes, absolutely. Again, I wasn't trying to say veganism isn't a valid choice. But it is a conscious choice, not somehow inherently better (or worse, in most cases) than other choices.