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Old 07-06-2008, 07:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
According to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, in 2005, 25% of prisoners in federal prisons were illegal aliens, and 4% were legal aliens. This proportion has not gone down; if anything, it has gone up markedly. Bill O'Reilly is on record more recently stating that illegal aliens account for 32% of the federal and state prison population.

According to the well-respected U.S. Center for Immigration Studies (www.cis.org), incarcerated convicted illegal aliens make up 29 percent of federal, state and local prisons at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. This number doubles when the costs for apprehension, the justice system, public defenders, interpreters, prosecutors and the courts add to the total.
Both Bill O'Reilly and the CIS inflated the numbers to suit their agenda...which should come as no surprise.

According to the Bureau of Justice stats:
"Overall. 6.4% of state and federal inmates in 2005 were not US citizens and it has been relatively stable since the mid 1990s (page 5)....NOt 32% and rising as O'Reilly claims.

Of the total prisoners in federal, state and local prisons and jails, 15% are hispanic (table 10-page 8)....i think it is reasonable to conclude that most are citizens, not illegal aliens, if you combine this with the first fact cited above......and certainly NO where near the 29% that CIS claims.

Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear2005 (pdf report)

Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2005 (main page)

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Maybe it would be worth it for you to initiate a thread to discuss parameters for quotes that all members find acceptable. It could save time eliminating the consuming task of verifying quote sources, their sources, who funded the website that its listed on, or the possibility that its a conspiracy being generated by the man behind the curtain.
When you cite O'Reilly as a source, you should expect to be challenged. Based on his record for BS, why wouldnt you want to verify anything he says...unless perhaps it supports your presupposed position.

The parameter most acceptable is simple....if you post an OPINION...anything goes....if you post "FACTS".....then FACT-CHECK!
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