04-19-2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70
.....More importantly, regardless of whether or not genetics are at the root of the issue, it's pretty well demonstrated here, and elsewhere, that, for the most part, trying to get a liberal to agree with a conservative position, or vice versa, is mostly futile.
Yes, but the entire point of the OP is that the facts have nothing to do with it. How one interprets those facts definitely does know right or left. Your posts are a perfect example: you post citation after citation after citation (after citation, after citation...) and, still, you've convinced almost no one who doesn't already agree with you here.
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My point is that I do not need to "keep score".....to know whether or not anyone is "convinced". As with the WMD controversy, where a few repetitions of the Scott McClellan's admission ended the discussion here, other disagreements are "settled" the same way. The assertions finally stop being made, in any posts. If those assertions made up the bulk of what certain members posted, the posting frequency of those members diminished, or ended.....
Nothing to do with OP click to show
No one will admit that they are unconvinced of this:
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Press Briefing by Scott McClellanJanuary 12, 2005. Press Briefing by Scott McClellan ... as well, that the weapons that we all believed were there, based on the intelligence, were not there ...
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...or this:
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MARTHA: Mr. President, you have said throughout the war in Iraq and building up to the war in Iraq that there was a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Zarqawi and al Qaeda.
A Senate Intelligence Committee report a few weeks ago said there was no link, no relationship, and that the CIA knew this and issued a report last fall. And yet a month ago, you were still saying there was a relationship. Why did you keep saying that? Why do you continue to say that? And do you still believe that?
BUSH: The point I was making to Ken Herman’s question was that Saddam Hussein was a state sponsor of terror,
and that Mr. Zarqawi was in Iraq
. He had been wounded in Afghanistan, had come to Iraq for treatment. He had ordered the killing of a U.S. citizen in Jordan.
I never said there was an operational relationship.....
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or this:
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0011026-5.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
October 26, 2001
The President:
.......The existing law was written in the era of rotary telephones. This new law that I sign today will allow surveillance of all communications used by terrorists, including e-mails, the Internet, and cell phones.
As of today, we'll be able to better meet the technological challenges posed by this proliferation of communications technology......
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...626B8B4F9F8%7D
Text of President Bush's weekly radio address
By MarketWatch
Last Update: 11:55 AM ET
Jul 28, 2007
The President:
....One of the most important ways we can gather that information is by monitoring terrorist communications. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act --
also known as FISA -- provides a critical legal foundation that allows our intelligence community to collect this information while protecting the civil liberties of Americans. But this important law was written in 1978, and it addressed the technologies of that era. This law is badly out of date -- and Congress must act to modernize it.
Today we face sophisticated terrorists who use disposable cell phones and the Internet to communicate with each other, recruit operatives, and plan attacks on our country. Technologies like these were not available when FISA was passed nearly 30 years ago, and FISA has not kept up with new technological developments....
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Cynthetiq tells me he is editing my posts, but not even reading what he decides must be put behind a [hide ] tag.....
EDIT: I have read the items behind and find that they do not relate to the OP with respect to GENETICS, in fact no words GENES or GENETICS appear in the hidden quotes.
Last edited by Cynthetiq; 04-19-2008 at 01:52 PM..
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