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Old 03-27-2008, 07:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
here in NYC even if you let someone sleep on your sofa for 30 days informally/non written agreement, they have ALL the protections of any other renter or leasee. This is to protect people from being tossed out onto the street unfairly for whatever reason, from not liking the person to just wanting your sofa back.
And at some point, there must be some way to get that person off of your sofa. Or are you obligated to provide housing forever?

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As I see it, Mr. C has no idea this is coming. That's what I find unfair. He's been a good roommate. His only sin seems to be that he isn't the other guy. That's my objection, not the adequate time. Sorry if I didn't make that clearer.

According to the OP, they don't dislike Mr. C. They just like the other guy more. And the OP doesn't own the house; he's a renter who's seeking advice. I agree things would be different if he were the owner or if Ms. A had posted this herself.
The rest of your argument is a bit of a strawman, though. I don't rent my house to my wife and kids. They all live here with me as co-owners (at least as far as my wife is concerned). If I chose to rent out the spare room to you (not that you're not welcome to visit), I'd have to clear it with The_Wife first since she's also an owner. If she rented from me, it might be a different story.
If anyone is doing the "tossing", it has to be the owner. I have been thinking about the situation from the point of the owner, not the "tenant" that posted.

I know that you don't rent to your wife and kids. I'm not equating your family situation with the situation in the OP (at least in a legal sense). My argument regarding that situation is that it is not unreasonable to want to live with people you like. Is wanting someone to move out of your home because you're not friends with them "bullshit" (as Manic_Skafe argued)? What is the owner supposed to do if she doesn't want to live with the guy anymore? Move? If there was a lease, she would be obligated to live up to the terms of the lease. There isn't a lease. She needs to do more than just toss the guy, but she is not obligated to live with him forever.

I do think that the owner should be honest with the "tenant". I also agree that the situation isn't ideal. It's certainly unfair to toss someone out on the street. Is it ever fair to ask someone who pays rent to move? Are people who want to live with those they enjoy being around assholes?
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Only if you are hot, and a chick, and like to parade around naked.
But I'm neat, quiet, and I pay rent. Isn't that enough for you?

Last edited by sapiens; 03-27-2008 at 07:20 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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