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Originally Posted by MSD
I don't believe in the "friend zone" and limits on how long someone might be interested starting from when you meet, but if she's had a boyfriend for the entire time and she hasn't shown any romantic interest in you, you're just another friend of hers.
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How is being "just another friend of hers" not the same as being in the friend zone?
As for the limits... I think relationships are very fluid and the dynamics can change at any time, so there are never any set limits on anything, but there are definitely more opportune times to try and make a move or progress the relationship to the next level... just like there comes a point when the chance of success is too small to justify putting more time and effort into developing a romance.
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Originally Posted by Martian
I'm not MSD but I don't buy into that stuff either. It's an attempt to oversimplify the rather the rather complex field of human social interactions and frankly it all strikes me as a bit childish.
One of my best friends is currently madly in love and deliriously happy with a man with whom she has recently had a child. They knew each other and were friends for the better part of a decade before they started dating. This is one example of several I can think of that contradict the idea of a friend zone.
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Honestly, what's wrong with simplifying things? Just because it's a slang term doesn't make it childish and doesn't mean there isn't some validity to it. I think JinnKai did a good job of providing scenarios and examples of when the 'friend zone' would apply. Everyone has relationships with people who they have developed a connection with but would never consider seeing romantically for one reason or another... sometimes it helps for a 3rd party to point out where you stand so you can then weigh whether or not that person is worth the time and effort in pursuing.
I think your example only supports the idea of the friend zone... sure it's possible to break out of it and start a successful romantic relationship, but it typically takes a very long time.