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Originally Posted by Tophat665
Pan, with all respect, that right there is where cultural relativism breaks down. Killing in the name of self preservation or defense of your family is one thing. That presupposes a clear and present threat thereunto. Killing any other way is wrong. Killing in the name of a God is both wrong and absurd. (I'm not saying he doesn't exist, mind you, just that you can never know.)
Islam is not, by and large, like that - oh, jihad's there in the book all right, but it's not widely observed, or more observed as a spiritual struggle for self betterment. When someone starts talking it up literally, they start being evil - indeed a clear and present danger.
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No that was just a reply to Will's post.
I am well aware that probably 90-95% (if not more) of the Muslims are a peaceful bunch. It's the extremists which will kill in the name of their God.
Killing for any reason other than in defense is wrong, I wholeheartedly agree, however, there are many on this planet that believe killing isn't that wrong and killing in the name of their God is ok.
I find it a pathetic that we can let in Illegals (any of them could be terrorists), we complain about laws set up to protect us as best as possible from ways we know they can attack, we have kids killing people in school because they were able to get dad's gun and wanted to die in infamy (an act of terrorism)...... yet we'll bitch about smoking and make it illegal everywhere.
"Gee sorry to hear that bomb blew away half the city, we'll rebuild and it'll be ok."
"Golly, that 10 year old sure was prepared for the rampage in the school, but we can't do anything about gun control... the NRA will come down on us."
"Gee, beautiful day here at the park, sun in my face, getting ready to watch the Indi....." "Hey Buddy, you need to leave and here's your ticket for smoking." "Put that Goddamned thing out, I can't breathe."
Truly what the fuck is wrong with our nation when we can come up with excuses to make sure the terrorists can have easy work.... yet we take smoking rights away, even tho the smokers pay a lot in taxes...try living without those taxes.
//end threadjack.... sorry tired and cranky... think I'll go have a ciggy and go to bed.