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Originally Posted by Ustwo
A 60's child and this is all new to you?
host if this is a crisis it has been a crisis since the country was founded. I think its less of a crisis now than it has been in the past as now abuses can be publicized in ways that were not possible 30+ years ago.
I have to wonder what sort of sheltered life you have led that it took a recent movie to see this 'problem' for the first time.
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Ustwo, you'll have to hire a researcher if you decide to take this challenge:
A leading candidate for the 2008 republican presidential nomination, and the president of the United States, both "fell" for this uneducated, underqualified, criminal bullshitter's "line":
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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52C1A9679C8B63
Kerik Says He Won't Stay On as Police Commissioner
By KEVIN FLYNN
Published: November 10, 2001
.....It is unclear whom Mr. Bloomberg will select to replace Mr. Kerik, but the name mentioned most frequently is that of Raymond W. Kelly, a former police commissioner under Mayor David N. Dinkins who is now senior managing director for global security at Bear Stearns. Were Mr. Kelly to assume the job, he would be the first person to return for a second stint as commissioner under a different mayor.
Two other names on Mr. Bloomberg's short list <h3>are said to be Edward Norris, a former New York police commander who now runs the Baltimore department</h3>, and Joseph P. Dunne, first deputy police commissioner of New York.
Mr. Kerik, 46, said he intended to take several months off, then will explore setting up his own security consulting company, a plan that he said might dovetail at some point with Mr. Giuliani's own aspirations. Mr. Kerik said one impetus for leaving was a recent encounter with his wife when he exclaimed that their daughter was walking. He said he was informed that the landmark event had actually occurred days earlier when he had not been home.
''I have to look at what I have done throughout my life,'' Mr. Kerik told a news conference at Police Headquarters, ''and what I have been through in the last eight years, most importantly the last year, and then the last eight weeks. I think you have to set priorities in your life, and my priorities right now are focused toward my family and the future.''
Mr. Kerik, a former undercover narcotics detective with the thick neck of a bulldog, first worked for Mr. Giuliani as a campaign bodyguard in 1993. Although <h3>Mr. Kerik never rose above the rank of third-grade detective in eight years on the force and lacked a college degree, Mr. Giuliani discerned in him a talent for management</h3> and appointed him to a post in the Department of Correction in 1994.
He later served as the commissioner of correction, helped to reduce jail violence and was <h3>appointed to succeed Howard Safir as police commissioner in August 2000.</h3>
In fighting crime, Mr. Kerik's approach was not one of startling innovation. He largely relied on a system created by his predecessors, William J. Bratton and Mr. Safir, which depended on the rapid deployment of additional officers to areas defined as crime-prone by computer mapping. Mr. Kerik tinkered with that system, however. He created a central clearinghouse for intelligence data and expanded the size of the squad that pursues fugitives, and crime continued to decline. It is down 13 percent for the first 10 months of this year compared with last, an achievement that has won accolades......
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If things are "better" presently than they were years ago, please post another instance when such a corrupt, clearly unqualified man was appointed to head a 45,000 officer police dept., or when a president made such an error for such an important appointment, Kerik as head of DHS. Show us an instance when a criminal was exiting a position of such responsibility as Kerik's was at NYPD, weeks after 9/11, and another felon to be, Norris, was under consideration for appointment to replace him.
Or, show us a time since the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, when the DOJ was as lacking in integrity and in it's commitment to impartially prosecute criminals and to enforce the provisions of the Civil Rights and the Voting Rights Acts.
...and I take it that you see no problem here worth your time or concern:
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http://trinifar.wordpress.com/2007/0...lation-growth/
prison population growth
February 16, 2007 by Trinifar
Every candidate for public office promises to be tough on crime, and, unlike many political promises, these are kept — as the graph below demonstrates. Not only are we locking up more people from year to year, we are locking up a higher portion of the population each year.
<br><center><img src="http://trinifar.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/prisonpop.png"></center>
In America we have more people in prison — in raw numbers and as a portion of our population — than any other nation in the world. We also spend more money on this than any other country. Yet we don’t have less crime; every European nation has lower crime rates (and lower incarceration rates for that matter) than we do.
You’ve likely read something about this recently. Here’s a (tiny) sample from the nation’s press:
* Arizona prison population may grow 35% by 2011 — <a href="http://trinifar.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/prisonpop.png">Tucson Citizen</a>
* …Iowa’s prison population will grow by 16% in the next five years… — <a href="http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=C242F5DC-BF20-47B2-FED698DCA41F81E8">RadioIowa</a>
* Ohio’s prison population is expected to grow by 20 percent over the next five years,… — Cleveland Plain Dealer
* Prison Growth Could Cost $27.5 Billion Over Next 5 Years — <a href="http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february152007/usprisongrowth_021507.php">Salem News</a>
Even other countries noticed:
* The increase — projected … to be three times faster than overall population growth in the U.S. — is expected to cost states more than $27 billion. — <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/14/news/prison.php">IHT.com</a>
The surge of headlines is due to the publication of Public Safety, Public Spending: Forecasting America’s Prison Population 2007-2011, the source of the <img src="http://trinifar.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/smbluestar.png"> projection in the above graph. Links: the <a href="http://www.pewpublicsafety.org/">complete report</a> and the <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070306151020/http://www.pewtrusts.org/news/news_subpage.cfm?content_item_id=3968&content_type_id=16&page=nr1">press release</a>.
Causes, as reported by the states, of prison growth being faster than population growth:
* movement from indeterminate to determinate sentencing
* abolition of parole and adoption of truth-in-sentencing requirements
* lower parole grant rates
* passage of “three-strikes” laws
* establishment of sentencing guidelines
Some will say that’s just the price we must pay for justice. But is it?
“Prisons are the fourth-largest state budget item behind health, education and transportation.” However, unlike the other items states get very little federal money for prisons. If nothing changes $27.5 billion will be spent in the next five years just to cover the cost of the increase in the number of prisoners: $12.5 billion for new prisons and $15 billion to run them. This is in addition to the $61 billion now being spent each year.
About the report:
* The purpose of the report is “to help states advance fiscally sound, datadriven policies and practices in sentencing and corrections that protect public safety, hold offenders accountable and control corrections costs. The project helps states diagnose the factors driving prison growth and provides policy audits to identify options for reform, drawing on solid research, promising approaches and best practices in other states.”
* The report “is for state and federal prisons, not jails. Prisons generally hold offenders sentenced to a year or more in custody [for felony convictions]; jails hold people awaiting trial and serving sentences shorter than a year.” However, the ratio of 1 person in jail for every 2 in prison has been constant from 1980 to the present.
* The <a href="http://www.jfa-associates.com/">JFA Institute</a> prepared the report for the Public Safety Performance Project of the Pew Charitable Trusts. JFA is a Washington-based, nonprofit consulting firm which conducts prison population forecasts under contract with a number of states; several other states use JFA’s software to make their projections.
* Three three independent specialists — including the former director of research for the Federal Bureau of Prisons and the former bureau chief of the Bureau of Research and Data Analysis for the Florida Department of Corrections — screened the report for methodology and accuracy.
It’s non-partisan. Read it. Lots of <a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040105/tuhusdubrow">data, well-done charts and graphs</a>, and only 26 pages long excluding the appendix. It will allow some brave legislators to begin to talk about prison and crimial justice reform in a meaningful way, <h2>if only because they can now do so under the guise of budget control.</h2>
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Part of the corruption is the steady rise in the percentage of the US population that is incarcerated....it all needs to be confronted, discussed and remedied, as one problem, and it cannot be separated from the problem of corrupt, "partisan first", appointments by elected officials of incompetents and ethically challenged individuals as judges and police dept. administrators.
Last edited by host; 12-28-2007 at 07:06 PM..
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