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Old 11-05-2007, 01:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I think the bottom line, IL, is that you can rant and rave about how pre-teens can consent to sex with adults all you want, and none of us are going to accept that as a premise or in any way related to adult consensual sexual activity.

Everyone else who has posted in this thread agrees that kids (including those teenage boys talked about in the OP) do not have the mental, physical and sexual maturity to engage in a healthy and balanced sexual relationship with an adult which is totally independent of whatever arbitrary number the law assigns to consent. Consent doesn't mean "I can say yes and want it to happen." Consent means "By saying yes, I understand and appreciate all of the consequences of the events about to transpire and have come to this conclusion of my own volition without any outside pressure, coercion or interference."

Kids do not have the perspective or maturity to realize what is being asked of them and, depending on how far we're feathering this age line down, may not have the biological capacity (as I outlined previously) to fully engage in a sexual act with any person of any age or gender. An adult who wants to have sex with a child (or preteen or whatever) would be able to exert a lot of pressure on that child to get them to say "yes" both psychologically and physically.

And pressure aside, how well can an 11 year old appreciate being propositioned for sex? I have friends who had sex with each other as teenagers and ruined their lives because they didn't appreciate the consequences of having sex. And these were people in otherwise healthy balanced high school relationships. Sex IS a big deal and knowing how to deal with it is not a joke. Even if pregnancy isn't a problem, it is one of our basest instincts as living organisms and taps into the core of our emotions. Kids shouldn't ever be in a position where an adult who is fully sexually mature is propositioning them, because there's no way those two can ever make a balanced, informed decision.

Obviously this isn't a conclusive finding, but what minimal looking I have done suggests that your "fact" about male-male pedophilia being much more common doesn't seem to represent what I've found.

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Similarly, while a meta-analytic study by Rind, Tromovitch, and Bauserman (1998) reported mean prevalence rates of 17% and 28% for males and females respectively, the range for males was 3% to 37%, and for females 8% to 71%. Such wide variation in the prevalence rate is due to differences in the definition of child sexual abuse, the type of sample used, design, and measurement techniques.

Source: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._72272302/pg_3
That's an enormous range, but females seem to be molested at a meaningfully higher rate than males. That would tend to suggest that the majority of pedophiles are NOT gay. Guess you can dig through that survey if you feel like it, but I'd be surprised if you found a conclusive study which pointed to a significantly contrary result.

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