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Originally Posted by Ustwo
That was for Shauk.
It undermines the country in that the implication is if you enlist you are obviously stupid and should die. We need people to enlist. Do I think its a major issue? No I doubt anyone who thinks its funny would have the type of character to enlist anyways. I do think the 9/11 conspiracy nutjobs have in fact hurt the country by convincing a large number of undereducated and naive people that the risk of terror is a lie.
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<h3>YES !!! YES!!!! "the risk of terror is a lie"...a "lie" designed to shift authority and wealth to the folks (from the rest of us...) who hammer it home....over and over. ....a "lie" that has cost some of us our humanity, too many lives, too much money..... 9/11...9/11....9/11....vote for "daddy" Rudy G. !!!! 2008 !</h3>
...because....on 9/11....Rudy....and he'll "keep us safe"...from the "bad" people.....
Is misplaced "outrage" what is killing our country?
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....Some folks are born
made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief",
they point the cannon right at you.....
...Some folks inherit
star spangled eyes,
Ooh, they send you down to war.
And when you ask them,
"How much should we give?"
They only answer "More! More! More!"....
-John Fogerty
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If the noisemakers below could only focus their outrage on "real" things.....about the deaths of innocents....the ambition....the warcrimes
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Ted Rall Continues His Jihad Against American Troops
6 hours ago by beth
Idiot jihad cartoon. Ted Rall is a cartoonist who apparently spends a great deal of his time bitterly lashing out against our Troops. I’ve wondered before what kind of mind comes up with this kind of seditious hate-filled lunacy. ...
Blue Star Chronicles - http://bluestarchronicles.com
Cartoon that is not very funny...
16 hours ago by mycouponsgreg
Ted Rall online The above link is to a Ted Rall cartoon. According to his site:. His cartoons now appear in more than 140 publications, including the Philadelphia Daily News, Aspen Times, Hartford Advocate, Newark Star-Ledger, ...
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Seeing the Elephant
16 hours ago by Callimachus
Michael Yon has a close encounter with the Talented Mr. Beauchamp. Yon's politely asks the detractors to back off:. Beauchamp is young; under pressure he made a dumb mistake. In fact, he has not always been an ideal soldier. ...
Done With Mirrors - http://vernondent.blogspot.com/
Typical Liberal Showing ‘Support’ For The Troops
18 hours ago by Charles Signorile
Ted Rall whom I must confess i have never heard of before, has printed a cartoon this week which can in no way be described as anything but insulting to American soldiers. I decided to try and find out a little more about the person who ...
Constitutionally Right - http://constitutionallyright.com
Evolution in Action Update
19 hours ago by Uncle Pavian
From the unspeakably depraved Mr. Ted Rall comes this insight into the thinking of people who, like our Congressperson, Nancy Boyda (Democrat, Kansas), say they support the troops but hate the war: NB The reference to Nancy Boyda ...
West Neanderthal Drive - http://westneanderthaldrive.blogspot.com/
Degenerate Attention Whore Thanks Troops for Free Speech
20 hours ago by Patrick
When Ted Rall dies, his hateful corpse will be cut into innumerable little pieces and made into a road. When American troops die, they’ll walk down that road on their way to meet St. Peter. {Allahpundit}
Dog Opus Blog - http://dogopus.com/blog
Ted Rall: Only Idiots Die in Iraq, US IQ Soars
21 hours ago
Here’sa look into the squirmy, ugly mind of Ted Rall, whose latest cartoon about US troops in Iraq says: “Only idiots signed up; only idiots died. Back home, the average IQ soared.” (Hat tip: LGF readers.)
Little Green Footballs - http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ - References
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Ohhhh!!!! The microscopic neighborhood where today's "theme" is outrage over an "effing" cartoon is brought onto our TFP politics forum in the form of a thread devoted to outrage over said cartoon....seems there's much less "outrage" over the reality of US War Crime:
www.iraqbodycount.org/ ....
Is our military this "tiny"....this fragile.... listing to port...from a "direct hit" from....a cartoon?
It shrugs off accusations of war crimes....the sites listed above, shrug off such talk....yet we executed the perpetrators of "pre-emptive, aggressive war", and called it the ulitmate crime against humanity:
George J. Tenet, the former director of central intelligence, has lashed out against Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush administration officials in a new book, saying they pushed the country to war in Iraq
without ever conducting a “serious debate” about whether Saddam Hussein posed an imminent threat to the United States....
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.......“There was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat,” Mr. Tenet writes in a devastating judgment that is likely to be debated for many years.
<b>Nor, he adds, “was there ever a significant discussion” about the possibility of containing Iraq without an invasion.......</b>
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I've never been discouraged from calling what happened in Iraq, what it is....a crime of "War of aggression"....what was described by US prosecutors at Nuremberg as the "ultimate crime against humanity"....because it spawns so many other crimes, once such a war is pursued.
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http://www.roberthjackson.org/Man/Sp...arris_Tyranny/
<b>The Crime Of Waging Aggressive War</b>
An Address by Whitney R. Harris
Prosecutor at the Trial of the Major German War Criminals
At Nuremberg and the Author of TYRANNY ON TRIAL
The Robert H. Jackson Center
October 1, 2004
.........We need not trouble ourselves about the many abstract difficulties that can be conjured up about what constitutes aggression in doubtful cases… By all the canons of plain sense, these were unlawful wars of aggression in breach of treaties and in violation of assurances.”
Justice Jackson observed that these were the wars of aggression of the defendants in the dock. He concluded his closing speech with this analogy. “[These defendants] stand before the record of this trial as blood-stained Gloucester stood by the body of his slain king. He begged of the widow, as they beg of you: ‘Say I slew them not.’ And the Queen replied, ‘Then say they were not slain.” But dead they are…’ If you were to say of these men that they are not guilty, it would be as true to say there has been no war, there are no slain, there has been no crime.”
Upon the conclusion of the arguments of counsel, the case was submitted to the Tribunal for its opinion that was issued on October 1, 1946, precisely fifty-eight years ago to this very day. On the issue of aggressive war, the Tribunal declared: “The charges in the indictment that the defendants planned and waged aggressive war are charges of the utmost gravity. War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”
The Tribunal held that of the twenty-two defendants brought to trial before it, twelve were guilty of the crime of waging aggressive war. ..........
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Nothing will happen unless each of us can admit to ourselves that our elected leaders seem to have done this....ordered it....knowing that it was avoidable and not justified by an "imminent threat".
....but we have a cartoon here....and it is an outrage!!