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If an American Soldier asks, "What Are We Fighting For", How Would You Answer?
I read this...and it struck me how far gone O'Reilly and supporters of Bush's security policies and "Global War on Terror" really are.....
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301152,00.html
....John Edwards has no chance to become president because he's simply too far-left for most Americans, but the positions he holds are now acceptable to millions of voters and to much of the mainstream media. Let's run them down.....
....So just talking about your personal security, would you support President John Edwards? <h3>Remember, no coerced interrogation, civilian lawyers in courts for captured overseas terrorists, no branding the Iranian guards terrorists, and no phone surveillance without a specific warrant.
"Talking Points" believes most Americans reject that foolishness....</h3>
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With all the alterations to our "unalienable rights", and the torture policy that Bush denies is torture....just since Bush TOOK office, almost seven years ago, O'Reilly's comments and the articles of Frank Rich and Glenn Greenwald that follow....influence me to see very little that sets the US apart....as far as preservation and support for a set of rights and principles cherished enough for US soldiers to fight and die to maintain.
We civilians with occasional exceptions like Cindy Sheehan....won't even get up off our couches and out in to the streets to voice our objections to the illegality and deliberate deceit described in the following quote boxes:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/op...rssnyt&emc=rss
Op-Ed Columnist
The ‘Good Germans’ Among Us
By FRANK RICH
Published: October 14, 2007
“BUSH lies” doesn’t cut it anymore. It’s time to confront the darker reality that we are lying to ourselves. Ten days ago The Times unearthed yet another round of <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/washington/04interrogate.html">secret Department of Justice memos</a> countenancing torture. President Bush gave his <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/10/20071005-2.html">standard response:</a> “This government does not torture people.” Of course, it all depends on what the meaning of “torture” is. The whole point of these memos is to repeatedly recalibrate the definition so Mr. Bush can keep pleading innocent.
By any legal standards except those rubber-stamped by Alberto Gonzales, we are practicing torture, and we have known we are doing so ever since photographic proof emerged from Abu Ghraib more than three years ago. As Andrew Sullivan, once a Bush cheerleader, <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article2602564.ece">observed last weekend</a> in The Sunday Times of London, America’s “enhanced interrogation” techniques have a grotesque provenance: “Verschärfte Vernehmung, enhanced or intensified interrogation, was the exact term innovated by the Gestapo to describe what became known as the ‘third degree.’ It left no marks. It included hypothermia, stress positions and long-time sleep deprivation.”
Still, the drill remains the same. The administration gives its alibi (Abu Ghraib was just a few bad apples). A few members of Congress squawk. The debate is labeled “politics.” We turn the page.
There has been scarcely more response to the similarly recurrent story of apparent war crimes committed by our contractors in Iraq. Call me cynical, but when Laura Bush <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-10-09-laura-bush_N.htm">spoke up last week</a> about the human rights atrocities in Burma, it seemed less an act of selfless humanitarianism than another administration maneuver to change the subject from its own abuses.
As Mrs. Bush spoke, two women, both Armenian Christians, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/10/world/middleeast/10iraq.html">were gunned down in Baghdad</a> by contractors underwritten by American taxpayers. On this matter, the White House has been silent. That incident followed the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html">Sept. 16 massacre</a> in Baghdad’s Nisour Square, where 17 Iraqis were killed by security forces from Blackwater USA, which had <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/02/washington/02blackwater.html">already been implicated</a> in nearly 200 other shooting incidents since 2005. There has been no accountability. The State Department, Blackwater’s sugar daddy for most of its <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/25/AR2007092502675.html">billion dollars in contracts</a>, won’t even <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/world/middleeast/11blackwater.html">share its investigative findings</a> with the United States military and the Iraqi government, both of which have <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101101030.html">deemed the killings criminal</a>.
The gunmen who mowed down the two Christian women worked for a Dubai-based company managed by Australians, registered in Singapore and enlisted as a subcontractor by an American contractor headquartered in North Carolina. This is a plot out of “Syriana” by way of “Chinatown.” There will be no trial. We will never find out what happened. A new bill <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/04/AR2007100400282.html">passed by the House</a> to regulate contractor behavior will have little effect, even if it becomes law in its current form.
We can continue to blame the Bush administration for the horrors of Iraq — and should. Paul Bremer, our post-invasion viceroy and the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/12/20041214-3.html">recipient</a> of a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his efforts, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/world/middleeast/11legal.html">issued the order</a> that allows contractors to elude Iraqi law, a folly second only to his disbanding of the Iraqi Army. But we must also examine our own responsibility for the hideous acts committed in our name in a war where we have now fought longer than we did in the one that put Verschärfte Vernehmung on the map.
I have always maintained that the American public was the least culpable of the players during the run-up to Iraq. The war was sold by a brilliant and fear-fueled White House propaganda campaign designed to stampede a nation still shellshocked by 9/11. Both Congress and the press — the powerful institutions that should have provided the checks, balances and due diligence of the administration’s case — failed to do their job. Had they done so, more Americans might have raised more objections. This perfect storm of democratic failure began at the top.
As the war has dragged on,<h3> it is hard to give Americans en masse a pass. We are too slow to notice, let alone protest, the calamities that have followed the </h3> original sin...... click to show
In April 2004, Stars and Stripes <a href="http://stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=21007&archive=true">first reported</a> that our troops were using makeshift vehicle armor fashioned out of sandbags, yet when a soldier <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/08/international/middleeast/08cnd-rumsfeld.html">complained</a> to Donald Rumsfeld at a town meeting in Kuwait eight months later, he was successfully pilloried by the right. Proper armor procurement lagged for months more to come. Not until early this year, four years after the war’s first casualties, did <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html">a Washington Post investigation</a> finally focus the country’s attention on the shoddy treatment of veterans, many of them victims of inadequate armor, at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and other military hospitals.
We first learned of the use of contractors as mercenaries when four Blackwater employees were <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E4DC1539F932A35757C0A9629C8B63">strung up</a> in Falluja in March 2004, just weeks before the <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/05/03/slideshow_040503">first torture photos</a> emerged from Abu Ghraib. We asked few questions. When <a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/626324.html">reports surfaced</a> early this summer that our contractors in Iraq (180,000, of whom <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2138917,00.html">some 48,000</a> are believed to be security personnel) now outnumber our postsurge troop strength, we yawned. Contractor casualties and contractor-inflicted casualties are kept off the books.
It was always the White House’s plan to coax us into a blissful ignorance about the war. Part of this was achieved with the usual Bush-Cheney secretiveness, from the torture memos to the prohibition of photos of military coffins. But the administration also invited our passive complicity by requiring no shared sacrifice. A country that knows there’s no such thing as a free lunch was all too easily persuaded there could be a free war.
Instead of taxing us for Iraq, the White House bought us off with tax cuts. Instead of mobilizing the needed troops, it kept a draft off the table by quietly purchasing its auxiliary army of contractors to finesse the overstretched military’s holes. With the war’s entire weight falling on a small voluntary force, amounting to less than 1 percent of the population, the rest of us were free to look the other way at whatever went down in Iraq.
We ignored the contractor scandal to our own peril. Ever since Falluja this auxiliary army has been a leading indicator of every element of the war’s failure: not only our inadequate troop strength but also our alienation of Iraqi hearts and minds and our rampant outsourcing to contractors rife with Bush-Cheney cronies and campaign contributors. Contractors remain a bellwether of the war’s progress today. When Blackwater was <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jSQ14PoKO8jjCLmzfdzIzty14Ijw">briefly suspended</a> after the Nisour Square catastrophe, American diplomats were flatly forbidden from leaving the fortified Green Zone. So much for the surge’s great “success” in bringing security to Baghdad.
Last week Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq war combat veteran who directs <a href="http://www.iava.org/">Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America</a>, sketched for me the apocalypse to come. Should Baghdad implode, our contractors, not having to answer to the military chain of command, can simply “drop their guns and go home.” Vulnerable American troops could be deserted by those “who deliver their bullets and beans.”
This potential scenario is just one example of why it’s in our national self-interest to attend to Iraq policy the White House counts on us to ignore. Our national character is on the line too. The extralegal contractors are both a slap at the sovereignty of the self-governing Iraq we supposedly support and an insult to those in uniform receiving as little as <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/30/AR2007093001352.html">one-sixth the pay</a>. Yet it took mass death in Nisour Square to fix even our fleeting attention on this long-metastasizing cancer in our battle plan.
Similarly, it took until December 2005, two and a half years after “Mission Accomplished,” for Mr. Bush to feel sufficient public pressure to <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-12-bush-iraq_x.htm">acknowledge</a> the large number of Iraqi casualties in the war. Even now, despite his repeated <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/09/20070903.html">declaration</a> that “America will not abandon the Iraqi people,” he has yet to address or intervene decisively in the tragedy of four million-plus <a href="http://www.unhcr.org/iraq.html">Iraqi refugees</a>, a disproportionate number of them children. He feels no pressure from the American public to do so, but hey, he pays lip service to Darfur.
Our moral trajectory over the Bush years could not be better dramatized than it was by a reunion of an elite group of two dozen World War II veterans in Washington this month. They were participants in a top-secret operation to interrogate some 4,000 Nazi prisoners of war. Until now, they have kept silent, but America’s recent record prompted them to <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100502492.html">talk to The Washington Post</a>.
“We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture,” said Henry Kolm, 90, an M.I.T. physicist whose interrogation of Rudolf Hess, Hitler’s deputy, took place over a chessboard. George Frenkel, 87, recalled that he “never laid hands on anyone” in his many interrogations, adding,<h3> “I’m proud to say I never compromised my humanity.”
Our humanity has been compromised by those who use Gestapo tactics in our war. The longer we stand idly by while they do so, the more we resemble those “good Germans” who professed ignorance of their own Gestapo.</h3> It’s up to us to wake up our somnambulant Congress to challenge administration policy every day. Let the war’s last supporters filibuster all night if they want to. There is nothing left to lose except whatever remains of our country’s good name.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101202485.html
Former CEO Says U.S. Punished Phone Firm
Qwest Feared NSA Plan Was Illegal, Filing Says
By Ellen Nakashima and Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 13, 2007; Page A01
A former Qwest Communications International executive, appealing a conviction for insider trading, has alleged that the government withdrew opportunities for contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars after Qwest refused to participate in an unidentified National Security Agency program that the company thought might be illegal.
Former chief executive Joseph P. Nacchio, convicted in April of 19 counts of insider trading, said the NSA approached Qwest more than six months before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to court documents unsealed in Denver this week.
Details about the alleged NSA program have been redacted from the documents, but Nacchio's lawyer said last year that the NSA had approached the company about participating in a warrantless surveillance program to gather information about Americans' phone records.
In the court filings disclosed this week, Nacchio suggests that Qwest's refusal to take part in that program led the government to cancel a separate, lucrative contract with the NSA in retribution.....
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ews/klein.html
<i>Klein worked for more than 20 years as a technician at AT&T. Here he tells the story of how he inadvertently discovered that the whole flow of Internet traffic in several AT&T operations centers was being regularly diverted to the National Security Agency (NSA). Klein is a witness in a lawsuit filed against AT&T by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), which alleges AT&T illegally gave the NSA access to its networks. This is the edited transcript of an interview conducted on Jan. 9, 2007.</i>
......So this data flow meant that they were getting not only AT&T customers' data flow; they were getting everybody else's data flow, whoever else might happen to be communicating into the AT&T network from other networks. So it was turning out to be like a large chunk of the network, of the Internet.
Did you see that in the documents? Did the documents show that in the designs?
You can see that in the document. ... It names the circuit IDs; it names the companies they belong to; and it shows the cut date. And they were all in February, when they were cut into the splitter.
February 2003?
February 2003. Then I was looking at the equipment list. All these three documents were obviously all part of the same project, which involved cutting this splitter cabinet in. I looked at the main one, which is called Study Group 3, San Francisco, kind of an innocent-sounding name. What are they studying?
On the equipment list were standard things ... like Juniper routers and Sun servers, which are very common, high-quality equipment, and Sun storage equipment to store data. And there was a whole list there.
But then there was one thing that was odd, because I didn't recognize it. It was not part of normal, day-to-day telecommunications equipment that I was familiar with in years of my work, and that was a Narus STA 6400. STA stands for Semantic Traffic Analyzer. I'd never heard of this, so I started doing a little Google research to find out what this is about; what's a Semantic Traffic Analyzer? And so I find, after doing some Googling, that it's not only designed for high-speed sifting through high-speed volumes of data, looking for something according to various program algorithms, something you'd think would be perfect for a spy agency.
Turns out it was perfect for a spy agency, and they were already using it and boasting about it. I found, for instance, there was a conference in 2003 in McLean, Va., whose agenda was posted on the Internet. I'm sure you know McLean, Va., is the hometown of the CIA. ... The sponsor of the show was Narus, and they posted the agenda for this computer show, which was semi-public, and everybody was there, from the phone companies like AT&T and Verizon to the intelligence agencies like the DEA [Drug Enforcement Administration] and the FBI and local police agencies and the FCC [Federal Communications Commission]. I have to assume the NSA was there, although they didn't list themselves. But one of the guys on the agenda was William Crowell. William Crowell was the former deputy director of the NSA. He was on one of the forum lists as a speaker, along with the founder of Narus and a whole bunch of them.
So when I saw all that, it all clicked together to me: "Oh, that's what they're doing. This is a spy apparatus. I'm not just imagining things." ...
When you spotted this, you'd been in the room; you've seen the splitter; you've now got the documents; you've seen the Narus; you've gone to the Internet; you've seen what this technology show is about. What is it you think is going on here? What's your reaction?
My reaction -- that's why I practically fell out of my chair -- was that from all the connections I saw, they were basically sweeping up, vacuum-cleaning the Internet through all the data, sweeping it all into this secret room. ... It's the sort of thing that very intrusive, repressive governments would do, finding out about everybody's personal data without a warrant. I knew right away that this was illegal and unconstitutional, and yet they were doing it.
So I was not only angry about it; I was also scared, because I knew this authorization came from very high up -- not only high up in AT&T, but high up in the government. So I was in a bit of a quandary as to what to do about it, but I thought this should be halted.........
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http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...law/index.html
Sunday October 14, 2007 06:09 EST
The Beltway Establishment's contempt for the rule of law
The Washington Post's Editorial Page, in the establishment-defending form of Fred Hiatt, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/13/AR2007101301069.html">today became</a> but the latest Beltway appendage <h3>to urge the enactment of a special law providing amnesty to our nation's poor, put-upon, lawbreaking telecoms:</h3>
<i>There is one major area of disagreement between the administration and House Democrats where we think the administration has the better of the argument: the question of whether telecommunications companies that provided information to the government without court orders should be given retroactive immunity from being sued. House Democrats are understandably reluctant to grant that wholesale protection without understanding exactly what conduct they are shielding, and the administration has balked at providing such information. But the telecommunications providers seem to us to have been acting as patriotic corporate citizens in a difficult and uncharted environment.</i>.....
.....Further leave to the side the fact that, as Hiatt's <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/12/AR2007101202485.html">own newspaper just reported yesterday</a>, the desire for warrantless eavesdropping capabilities seemed to be on the Bush agenda well before 9/11.
And finally ignore the fact that Hiatt is defending the telecom's good faith even though, as he implicitly acknowledges, he has no idea what they actually did, because it is all still Top Secret and we are barred from knowing what happened here. For all those reasons, Hiatt's claim on behalf of the telecoms that they broke the law for "patriotic" reasons is so frivolous as to insult the intelligence of his readers, but -- more importantly -- it is also completely irrelevant. .....
........ By definition, the "rule of law" does not exist if government officials and entities with influential Beltway lobbyists can run around breaking the law whenever they decide that there are good reasons for doing so. The bedrock principle of the "rule of law" is that the law applies equally to everyone, even to those who occupy Important Positions in Fred Hiatt's social, economic and political circles and who therefore act with the most elevated of motives.
In <a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19980301faessay1377/thomas-carothers/the-rule-of-law-revival.html">a 1998 essay in Foreign Affairs</a> entitled "The Rule of Law Revival," Thomas Carothers of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace wrote optimistically that the "rule of law" has now become the centerpiece, the prime consensus, for most international relations and has been recognized as the linchpin for third-world countries developing into functioning democracies. Here is how he defined the basic principles of "the rule of law":
LEGAL BEDROCK
THE RULE of law can be defined as <h3>a system in which the laws are public knowledge, are clear in meaning, and apply equally to everyone.</h3> They enshrine and uphold the political and civil liberties that have gained status as universal human rights over the last half-century. . . . Perhaps most important, the government is embedded in a comprehensive legal framework, <h3>its officials accept that the law will be applied to their own conduct, and the government seeks to be law-abiding.
What is happening now in Washington is -- in every respect -- the exact opposite of this.</h3>....
.......And now, some of our country's richest, largest, most powerful and most well-connected corporations were caught breaking laws that have been in place for decades, such as Section 222 of the Communications Act of 1934, which provides that "[e]very telecommunications carrier has a duty to protect the confidentiality of proprietary information of . . . customers." 18 U.S.C. 2511 makes warrantless eavesdropping a felony; 18 U.S.C. 2702 requires that any "entity providing an electronic communication service to the public shall not knowingly divulge to any person or entity the contents of a communication" without a court order; and 18 U.S.C. 2520 provides for civil damages for any violations.
Here, the Government will not prosecute telecoms for breaking the law, because the government itself conspired in that lawbreaking. Thus, public interest groups and private citizens, including the telecoms' own customers, are attempting to hold them accountable for their lawbreaking by <a href="http://www.epic.org/privacy/hepting/">suing them in courts of law</a>.
In response, these corporations are using their vast resources to give money to key lawmakers and pay huge lobbying fees to <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/22/telecom_immunity/">politically well-connected former government officials</a> to pressure the Congress <h3>to write a new law that has no purpose other than to declare that they are immune from accountability for their lawbreaking. They're conniving, literally, to be specially exempted from the rule of law.</h3> .....
..... insisting that while the poor irrelevant souls who buy and sell drugs near the corners of their offices are real criminals and those people belong in prison, our nation's telecoms and other high officials, when they get caught breaking the law, should have special laws written decreeing that they are immune from all consequences.
This has become the norm for the Beltway. It is exactly what happened when poor, persecuted Lewis Libby was so unfairly subjected to a mean criminal trial and the possibility of prison -- just because he "technically" committed some felonies. .......
...... That is how a country that lives under the "rule of law" functions -- whether someone is found to have acted illegally is determined by a court of law, not neatly resolved after the fact with special amnesty laws passed by Congress that they buy. <h3>Here is what Carothers identified as the most "crucial" step for third-world countries to take</h3> in order to develop a healthy "rule-of-law" culture:
Type three reforms aim at the deeper goal of increasing government's compliance with law. A key step is achieving genuine judicial independence. . . . But the most crucial changes lie elsewhere. <h3>Above all, government officials must refrain from interfering with judicial decision-making and accept the judiciary as an independent authority.</h3>
The corruption and sleaze here is so transparent and extreme. We're just sitting by watching as telecoms right in front of our faces purchase from government officials the right to be exempt from lawsuits currently pending in our court system. Government officials, more or less on a bipartisan basis, are about to intervene in these lawsuits and prevent them from proceeding to a determination of whether telcoms violated numerous, long-standing laws........
....By definition, our Beltway establishment does not believe in the rule of law -- at least not for them. They are creating a completely segregated, two-track system where high Beltway officials and their corporate enablers arrogate unto themselves the power to decide when they can break the law. They are thus literally exempt from our laws, even our criminal laws, while increasingly harsh, merciless, and inflexible punishments are doled out for the poorest and least connected criminals -- who receive no consideration of any kind, let alone presidential commutations or special laws written for them by Congress retroactively rendering legal their patently criminal behavior.....
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...<b>I would have to tell any US soldier who asked me what he was fighting for...that I don't know how to answer the question....the elected officials and most of the US populace don't stand for any principle...or cherish any right...enough to defend it.... that sets the country apart from all others, and the indifference to the idea of honoring treaties....like the Geneva Conventions....setting an example...among nations....and for elected officials....actually honoring the oath they took "to protect and defend the constitution of the United States".... it all makes me suspect that our soldiers....fighting for "our country", in any foreign land...would be dying to uphold....nothing....</b>
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