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Old 05-21-2007, 07:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't mean to pick at your religion, I'm just showing that we're both somewhat at an equal stance.
I know. That was kind of the point.
Cool that we're on the same page, I guess. (Different books, mind you...)

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I don't want to turn this otherwise nice thread into an ugly religious rumble, but I'll risk it to state the following:
By the Goddess, everybody's got to be so PC these days. Look, as serious moral issues go, this is about the most lighthearted of topics we can have. I don't think we have to be so serious in our approach as to be apologizing with every other line whenever we want to put forward an idea, maybe, if its okay, not to offend everyone, we're all happy... you know? You can rest assure that, I, for one, am not going to be offended by anything you say on this topic. I also know that nothing I say is going to change anyone's mind, and I'm not trying to. So let's just be free to share and speak our minds...

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I once shared your views, and then I was captivated by this hypothetical: If there were no humans, then would there be a God?
LOL. See, and I would put forward the hypothetical supposition that humans exist because there is a God / Goddess / Animal Totem / Spiritual Messiah Figure Ascended To A Higher Plane. Further, the very idea, that so many people (and only people, as you point out) can and will believe in a God is itself fairly miraculous...

If there is no God, there is likely no cosmic destiny or specialness. If there is no cosmic destiny or specialness there is likely no God. There is evidence of this all around us, every day.

If there is a God, then there is likely a cosmic destiny or specialness. If there is a cosmic destiny or specialness, there is likely a God. There is evidence of this all around us, every day.

See the circular reasoning spins both ways, my friend...

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Answering that last question is what brought me to my views on humanity, life, religion, and the universe as a whole. In no way am I claiming that my views are absolutely true, but...You know what I mean. We're all reasonable here .
Heh. I won't jump for that bait.
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