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Old 03-26-2007, 10:57 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Explain to me how an absolute belief in God is unreasonable without having to resort to the "Well, there's no evidence of his existence!" argument (Which is fallacious in nature)?
Absolute belief in something without any evidence to support it's existence is simply illogical. It's not a fallacy, it's reason.
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No, your position isn't any more 'logical' than mine is. Conversely, you'll find that I've never made a claim stating that my position is any more 'logical' than any position anyone can take regarding the non-existence of God. You, however, have (On numerous occasions) stated that a disbelief in God is more rational than a belief in God as a lack of proof for existence is apparently the same thing as proof of non-existence (Which, as I'm sure you know by now, isn't the same thing).
So you're going to ignore the fact that I'm an agnostic atheist. That's super.
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To make use of Wiki again, such an argument is generally classified as an argument from ignorance.
Yes, your position is an argumentum ad ignorantiam. Again, and for the last time, I am an agnostic atheist. I recognize that god might exist. If that's not clear enough for you, please let me know what you're native language is so we can get on the same page.
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Quite simply because I do (I know what you're getting at and I've already acknowledged that they both have about the same chance of existing as the other).
No reason, eh? Check and mate. Now king me.
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It's nothing to be skeptical about because, once again, science can't qualify religious beliefs and vice versa. Doing so will inevitably lead to problems (As seen in atheists trying to rationalize God's existence based on scientific evidence-- Or a lack thereof).
There is either real or not real. Everything real has, is, or will be covered by science. As you seem to think that god will never be covered by science, that makes god not real.
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No, you were trying to pass of your 'experiences' as absolutes.
Do you have anything to disprove my experience? Maybe an experience of your own, at least? No?
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There's evidence to suggest that God isn't real? Really...? Where is it? I'm really praying that your 'evidence' isn't a 'lack of evidence'.
There's evidence that god is something else, namely fiction. Didn't you read my first post?
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I will continue to say this until you finally understand, but the MOST science can state regarding the God is that He might exist outside the absence of scientific evidence.
Freeze yourself until science is finished, then get back to me.
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That's it. Nothing more and nothing less. Any other claims you make regarding God and science are wrong. Plain and simple. End of story. Sorry.
It must be frustrating having to resort to the "I'm right and you're wrong" argument.
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Ummm... Hypocrite? Didn't you just state:
You not understanding my post hardly makes me a hypocrite. I clearly meant that god is fiction.
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...Are you seriously serious about having no evidence? Ok... How about I make you a deal? I'll start a new topic and we can go debate it there (Since, after all, I did state it a topic for discussion in a new thread)?
Present evidence of your claim or take it back.
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And racist claim? Pffft! "Godless whites! You're all going to Hell with your devil worshiping selves!" would be a racist remark
You're religious, right? So, in your mind, religious people are better than atheists, right? So you saying that most atheists are white is racist. Jeez.
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...Right. That response makes a whole world of sense. I feel as if I'm typing responses out for my own personal viewing pleasure.
You made a bullshit claim, and when I asked you to back it up you said no. Grow up. Either the claim has merit, and you can supply a source of evidence, or the claim is baseless, and you can't. I've not seen evidence, so the claim currently has no merit.

If I were to jump into a thread in politics and say, "All black people vote Democrat", I'd be called on it. People would say, "Oh yeah? Prove it!" When I couldn't prove it, which I couldn't because it's obviously not true, people would learn to ignore the claim. Actually, they might even learn to ignore me.
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