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Old 02-18-2007, 01:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
.......Is that his position this week? I can't keep track of it.



As an aside, your entire post was weak/worthless/a straw man argument.

<b>I haven't posted in politics in months.</b> If you dislike the quality and quantity of political discussions of late, then introspection on your part would be appropriate.
au contraire....Marv.....<b>If you are going to claim that you haven't posted here "in months", you can avoid looking like you look, now....if you don't make a claim like that, or if you actually have not posted. Also, if you are challenging an accusation like the one that dc_dux made, shouldn't the posts that you claim you did not author.....contain a tad less "eye rolling" and unsupported, partisan "digs", than what you've "served up"?</b> You were quite active here, just last month. A review of your "offerings" for the month of January, 2007, tends to reinforce dc_dux's argument, IMO:
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Well, although I might have started another thread after that insightful post, I might as well add this one:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars



The only thing worse than bickering is when Congress actually AGREES on something, and bad laws get passed. I can hardly wait to see what ELSE is brought forth over the next two years.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...46#post2180146
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...0720-2734r.htm



This is just as wrong as when Bush exempted oil industry workers from the minimum wage requirement!

Oh, wait ....

The Democrats couldn't WAIT to begin fixing the country (except, of course, for the day Congress took off to watch football), and THIS is the first thing on their agenda? I can hardly wait for a comment from a traditional non-conservative that "raising the minimum wage costs jobs." Samoans don't deserve a "decent living wage?"

Looks like a rocky ride ahead.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...47#post2179747
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Yes, of course, Canadians never heard of it.

Nice troll, moderator.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...41#post2177541
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
......Thank God the Democrats are heading up both houses now. Why, in one day, they've lowered the price of oil. Oh, and the thought of them being in leadership positions has prevented Bush from starting any more hurricanes this year.

I sure feel safe with Democrats running congress.


http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...58#post2176658
....as for Obama....he will have to overcome the hurdles of his first and middle names, his race and religious background, and his lack of experience, as well as the "stuff" that will be dredged up about him and his family background, over the next 20 months.
Here is a sample of the "background" reporting that we can expect to read:
www.freerepublic.com/~beckwith/

I don't think he can overcome it all, and I think that his nomination will be headed off for my stated reasons......I'm going to support a candidate with less "baggage" and more experience....someone who can win, if one even emerges.
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Obama, Rezko ...

Published November 3, 2006

It's possible that, two years from Friday, Sen. Barack Obama will be on the eve of his election to the presidency of the United States. It's also possible the Obama boomlet will have collapsed, leaving the Illinois senator eclipsed by hotter names with brighter prospects.......

.....Obama would be wise to explain, fully and quickly, the prelude to a real estate deal and subsequent transactions related to his acquisition of a $1.65 million home on Chicago's South Side. If Obama doesn't shine his own spotlight on his real estate relationship with indicted political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko, he'll be fielding questions about Rezko in two years and in 20.

First among those questions with staying power: Why would Obama allow himself any connection to Rezko? The developer notoriously attaches himself to political figures, often parlaying friendships into business dealings that have attracted official suspicions for several years......
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/p...,2716725.story
Rezko owns vacant lot next to Obama's home

By Ray Gibson and David Jackson
Tribune staff reporters
Published November 1, 2006

When Sen. Barack Obama decided to buy a stately $1.65 million home last year on Chicago's South Side, Antoin "Tony" Rezko and his wife wasted no time. The same day the Obamas closed on the house, the Rezkos closed on the purchase of the adjoining vacant lot, which once was the estate's lush side yard.

In normal circumstances, the two real estate transactions probably wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. There is, after all, nothing illegal or untoward about an aggressive developer buying hot property next door to a rising political star.

But these are not normal times for either Obama or Rezko, two longtime friends whose fortunes have taken sharp turns in opposite directions.

Illinois' junior U.S. senator has become a political star, riding a surge of popularity that has made him a top potential candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

Rezko, meanwhile, has achieved notoriety of a different sort. In October, he pleaded not guilty to federal charges involving pay-to-play allegations that surround Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's administration.

Now the hows and whys of a real estate deal, and a train of subsequent transactions, are raising questions about the relationship between the two men, as Obama struggles to distance himself from Rezko, and Rezko strives to stay out of prison.

Over the last 16 months, as they jointly worked to improve their side-by-side properties, the two men entered an ongoing series of personal financial arrangements. Because Rezko was widely reported to be under federal grand jury scrutiny, Obama said he was careful to ensure their transactions were ethical and proper.

"My working assumption was that as long as I operated in an open, up-front fashion, and all the T's were crossed and I's were dotted, that it wouldn't be an issue," Obama said. "If it was a neighbor I didn't know at all, would I have behaved any differently? I felt like the answer was no."

Obama added: "Tony has been a supporter of mine since my first race for state Senate."

And he said: "I haven't been involved with him in any legislative work whatsoever or any government activities of any sort."

For years, it's been Rezko's practice to befriend up-and-coming political figures, from Blagojevich to the godson of former County Board President John Stroger. Rezko often weaves those political friendships into business ventures.

Rezko first reached out to Obama in about 1990 when the future senator made headlines as the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. Rezko and two real estate partners called out of the blue to offer a job building inner-city homes.

"I said no, but I remained friendly with all three of them," Obama said. "All three of them remained great contributors of mine."

Over the years Rezko and Obama shared lunch "once or twice a year, although that's just an estimate," the senator said. As couples, the Rezkos and Obamas dined perhaps "two to four times ... in the time that I've known him."

One of Illinois' most prominent local Democratic fundraisers, Rezko and his companies donated at least $8,000 to Obama's state Senate campaigns and $11,500 to Obama's federal fund. (Obama has said he will divest those federal donations.) Rezko also hosted a 2003 event to boost Obama's campaign fund.

Obama and his wife were already flush with success when they went house hunting last year. Their combined income--bolstered by payments for his best-selling autobiography and advances for future books--topped $1.67 million. His wife, Michelle, had recently been promoted to a $316,962-a-year position as vice president at the University of Chicago Hospitals.

House has 4 fireplaces

They were drawn to a 96-year-old Georgian revival home that has four fireplaces, glass-door bookcases fashioned from Honduran mahogany, and a 1,000-bottle wine cellar, according to real estate listings and an interview. The house and the adjoining yard--which is surveyed as a separate lot--are rimmed by 12-foot-tall evergreens.

In the past, the two lots had been sold as a single estate. But in 2005, the owners listed the two parcels for sale separately.

Obama said his family's real estate broker brought the house to his wife's attention. He said he discussed the house with Rezko but isn't sure how Rezko began pursuing the adjacent lot. But Obama raised the possibility that he was the first to bring the lot to Rezko's attention.....

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