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pan6467 · 02-12-2007, 11:46 PM

I think there is a great possibility of a "civil war" in the Middle East the longer we are in Iraq. And I don't believe it to have much to do with Iraq, per se.

What I see happening is our planting seeds of freedom (i.e. funding certain "US friendly" groups that will recruit and spread propaganda to start some unrest. I think we'll see non-oil countries hit first (Syria), followed by oil rich countries (Saudi Arabia).

People fighting the leaders of their country because they have either too close of ties with the U.S. (Saudi) or the leaders are too tyrannical and the people fear for themselves (Iran... N. Korea could go into this category).

In another post they talk about all this money lost in Iraq...... I don't think it was lost it was used to fund covert operations.... to make "US friendly" Osamas that are willing to try to overthrow their leaders when the time is right.

What the rest of the world does when all this happens will be telling as to whether society survives or dies.

If Europe, Russia, China and everyone stays out and keeps us out... letting the countries handle their own affairs... we'll be safe... may run low on oil but necessity drives invention and we'll see how fast we can be taken off oil (my guess is within a year). Without oil money going in the leaderships are dead and with some rough spots, peace will eventually dominate that region.

However, if everyone takes sides, we are doomed. The first thing China will do is sell off every dollar they have and destroy our economy.... they already made sure we have no factories and ways to mass produce heavy artillary right away. We can't fight a war without it... so we're dead in the water. And the whole world structure as we know it will vanish, without much true warfare. And with a dead dollar even most of the oil rich countries will be broke and thus lose their leaderships.

From there the world will be split into regions, and governed by a truly powerful United Nations that controls all nations governments. It'll be like they are the Feds... each country is just a state and so on.

I truly see the Middle East headed one of those 2 ways. I don't see a huge nuclear war (unless we get a psycho in the WH that decides he'd rather destroy everyone and everything than watch us taken over). I don't see China allowing Iran or N. Korea to nuke us. Rattle sabres... maybe allow Iran and us a little skirmish over Iraqi lands but nothing world threatening.

I know I'm just nuts and probably put wayyyyyy too much thought into all this.

02-12-2007, 11:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	I think there is a great possibility of a "civil war" in the Middle East the longer we are in Iraq. And I don't believe it to have much to do with Iraq, per se. What I see happening is our planting seeds of freedom (i.e. funding certain "US friendly" groups that will recruit and spread propaganda to start some unrest. I think we'll see non-oil countries hit first (Syria), followed by oil rich countries (Saudi Arabia). People fighting the leaders of their country because they have either too close of ties with the U.S. (Saudi) or the leaders are too tyrannical and the people fear for themselves (Iran... N. Korea could go into this category). In another post they talk about all this money lost in Iraq...... I don't think it was lost it was used to fund covert operations.... to make "US friendly" Osamas that are willing to try to overthrow their leaders when the time is right. What the rest of the world does when all this happens will be telling as to whether society survives or dies. If Europe, Russia, China and everyone stays out and keeps us out... letting the countries handle their own affairs... we'll be safe... may run low on oil but necessity drives invention and we'll see how fast we can be taken off oil (my guess is within a year). Without oil money going in the leaderships are dead and with some rough spots, peace will eventually dominate that region. However, if everyone takes sides, we are doomed. The first thing China will do is sell off every dollar they have and destroy our economy.... they already made sure we have no factories and ways to mass produce heavy artillary right away. We can't fight a war without it... so we're dead in the water. And the whole world structure as we know it will vanish, without much true warfare. And with a dead dollar even most of the oil rich countries will be broke and thus lose their leaderships. From there the world will be split into regions, and governed by a truly powerful United Nations that controls all nations governments. It'll be like they are the Feds... each country is just a state and so on. I truly see the Middle East headed one of those 2 ways. I don't see a huge nuclear war (unless we get a psycho in the WH that decides he'd rather destroy everyone and everything than watch us taken over). I don't see China allowing Iran or N. Korea to nuke us. Rattle sabres... maybe allow Iran and us a little skirmish over Iraqi lands but nothing world threatening. I know I'm just nuts and probably put wayyyyyy too much thought into all this. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"