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roach,
i'll handle the "highbrow" comment, or at least part of it - as i think i was the person who originally threw it out in the C:A thread. what i meant by it, at least - and it may not be the most accurate use of the word - is in some ways tied up in notion of transparency. the way the tfp has been pragmatically evolving/devolving has led to a situation where any disagreement of a personal nature between members is frequently handled with slight innuendo, subtle digs. its more like my notion of a country club. i don't think there's anything wrong with that type of discussion, in and of itself (personally) - but the problem is that we've become somewhat limited to it as a mode of expressing personal confrontation. i think that some members of the tfp would like more breadth in the ability to directly handle such situations, using foul language and coarse phraseology. that's part of it. there is also the fact that people seem to have very thin skin around here a lot. i referenced an example of a comment made by king in the original C:A thread. i think the feeling is that we've limited our available modes of conversation, in the interest of promoting mature and intelligent discussion - to a form of surbanized anticeptic conversation that is only one form of mature conversation - and have cut a lot of others out entirely. i think that shanni has a valid point that we (or at least I, and I think many others) don't want this place to turn into a flamefest - but that fear can be taken too far, and i think many would say that it has.
halx, thanks for the chat log. the recent week's events are spurring me to do some thinking about this situation, in general. i have to admit that i rather like the idea of foisting the tb off to C:A, and then having some very obvious links between the two. another thought that occurs to me is a little more subtle, and of very little importance - but in line with the Tilted Nonsense discussion, not only would i include it in the 'new posts' link, i would rename it to something like Tilted Freeform or something. Nonsense sounds like a place to go read all the email forwards I delete every day, whereas a lot of the stuff I've seen over there is highly creative and really good for building community. I know it was the first place I felt comfortable when I started playing at tfp. I think Nonsense may not be the best semantic choice for the section.
I also think you're onto a valid point (I think it was in the other thread) that tfp needs more interesting content - from all of us. I hesitated to bring it up, because it feels too close to a self indictment - but if the tfp is just a place where we cut a link from cnn and this discuss it, that's probably not going to really drive the numbers up or raise interest. I think that gets boring really quickly - there's only so many positions that can be articulated there. I just haven't seen a clear stategic manner in which to make a coherent suggestion as to how to proceed yet.
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