View Single Post
Old 02-03-2007, 08:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
Willravel
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultana
Sorry will, this is 100% incorrect. Back in the day when churches were much more a part of people's daily lives; the synagog, temple, cathedral, church or what have you was absolutely the hub of community. It was often a place of worship/town hall/bureaucratic administration center/Communcations focal point, everything. It was *highly* relevant to everyday life, which is another reason why excommunication (or insert the appropriate term for the religion) was especially problematic.
Whether they are a hub for a community isn't relevant. Parks can be community hubs, too, but holding a large, impromptu church service on the playground would be innapropriate. Churches may have sometimes acted as centers of a community, but they have always been a place of worship. The litteral meaning of "church" is house of god. I know I'm 100% correct on that. The question would be: why has the church the best option for these people to watch a football game? The answer is that the church is not so much a house of god, but more a social club.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultana
As long as whatever's being done is up to the church's standards, and it's not interferring with classes or anything else important going on at that time, why not? From the church's standpoint, becoming a social focal point is a very good thing, it provides a place where like-minded folks can gather and have fun, and be more relevant in the modern man's day-to-day life. It helps to build a sense of community within that group.
Again, this isn't really my bag as I've left the church, but football /= worshiping god. When the church has spaghetti dinners or aa meetings they are doing so to bring more people to the faith and help people. This, on the other hand, is simply for entertainment. I would expect that more christians would be up in arms about this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultana
I don't even attend church anymore, but I know about hosting social events. I think having a SuperBowl (tm) party at a church facility is a fabulous idea. It supports the congregation and their interests, and can also serve as a non-threatening, fun outreach.
If it were clear that it was an outreach program and that they actually got permission to play it, maybe taking donations for the poor or something, then I'd think it was a brilliant idea. That's not the case. It's entrtainment and socializing. No god about it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sultana
It ain't all about praying and holy water. It's about life. Well, it should be, anyways.
I don't want this to turn into a discussion about what faith or religion should or shouldn't be. I've already answered those questions for myself and that's for another thread. It makes me chuckle that a football party has started to spark a conversation about the fundamental princeples of religion. TFP has way too many smart people.
Willravel is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360