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Originally Posted by roachboy
i dont see what information this thread is based on: a factoid at the outset about asylum-seekers--that's it.
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It is not complicated, I have my view, I look to learn the view of others. Here is the first line in the OP. The only reason I posted a link to anything is because so many of you are so anal about links.
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I am curious about what TFP'ers think about the changes occuring in Venezuela and if you think Chavez is on the right or wrong track in terms of what is best for his countrymen.
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chavez has been consistently opposed by various elite factions in venezuela--perhaps it is they who are leaving. qnd it does not follow--from any logic that i know of--that members of an economic elite are necessarily the "best and brightest" at anything. but to go further here, youd have to know something more specific about the nature of the venezuelan conservative opposition and its social origins. talking in vague terms about the movement of representatives of vague categories is a waste of time.
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I think we are at a very interesting moment in history. If you don't see the value in what is occuring in Venezuela and want to discuss it, don't.
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you should gather more information, ace.
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I have lots of information. My position on issues evolve. I am interested in what others have to offer. Based on what is presented I will either change my view or provide more information to support it.
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check out the film "the revolution will not be televised" for starters.
it's eye-opening, and does not lead you to any particular sentiment about chavez: but it DOES give you a pretty good glimpse into this conservative elite, who they are, what they control and what they have been doing (and apparently are willing to do)--it also gives you information about the type of political organization that chavez comes from. all of this would matter if you want an actual discussion.
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See how it works. I will take a look at the documentary, I was not aware of it.
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as it stands, i dont see the basis for a conversation about chavez here.
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Yet you discuss it.
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an alternative would be to introduce more information about venezuela into the thread, expand the data field and go from there.
i dont really have time to do it, but if someone else does, then by all means go for it
(not meaning to hijack your thread, ace, but it'd make it easier to have the conversation you seem to want to have that way...)
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In my opinion those who can not state their opinion in a few sentences, don't have clear opinions. I will never be overly wordy or post excessive volumes of quotes and links.
Given, you are free to avoid reading what I write wouldn't you be better served doing that rather than trying to get me to change my style?
Or, are you just blowing smoke and are incapable of having a discussion on the issue. I will draw my own conclusions on that, while you do things more worth your time.