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Old 10-15-2006, 11:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
pan6467
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I'm lost Us2 you say this:

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Its amusing how you blame capitalism for the crimes of the last two major communist nations. If anything besides a war is going to change China its not sanctions, its wealth and the wealth that capitalism brings. The world needs more capitalism, not less. I can't imagine how someone could be so wrong on this as you are.

But then you contradict yourself with this:


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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I didn't watch the video, but isnt that the sort of thing we expect from communist nations?

People are dying to leave.



Its not a free economy that opens it up, its the wealth in the hands of average citizens. You don't switch from a communist to a capitalist system overnight and expect all bad things to go away. Its not a magic bullet. To maintain that wealth you need citizens free to travel and free to get information, those are not compatible with repressive societies.

Just curious, because obviously China isn't getting better, it's still extremely repressive..... yet, capitalism is going to change them? But it's not a magic bullet and isn't compatible with their society.

So which is it? I truly would like to know since you contradict yourself and truly seem to have no idea what you are saying.

And why are we even trying capitalism there? They have crushed us at our own game. Our society is getting worse (bigger gap between the rich and poor, pitiful wages, healthcare out of control, an educational system falling apart, an infrastructure falling apart, government deficits out of control and personal as well as trade debt out of control) and they hold the promissary notes to our debt...... Sooooooo I don't think we or our way of life is winning anything against China.

But we're supposed to keep shipping jobs and buying goods from them because Capitalism will turn them free.... but Capitalism doesn't work in a repressive society which China is........

Wow..... ok then.
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