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Originally Posted by Kewpie Dan
true enough, but a bite or a gouge should not be the first line of defence.
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Absolutely correct.
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the first line of defense should be to work an escape to get out of the inferior position and into a dominant one from there you can ground and pound or work the submission.
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Well, we disagree a little there. I do NOT like to be on the ground. At all. Ever. I train grappling and kino mutai a lot, but the fact is that if you're on the ground, whether you're in the dominant position or the inferior position, there's always the chance that the other guy's friend will come around the corner with a baseball bat and ruin your whole day. I've seen it happen, and I don't want it to happen to me
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i (briefly) looked into kino mutai over the interweb and it sounds pretty good, as long as it is paired with sound grappling principles.
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Absolutely. If you don't have sound grappling principals, you don't have kino mutai.
The worst part about kino mutai is the bite training. Many schools wrap a raw steak in a shirt and have you bite it, which 1) wrecks a perfectly good piece of meat that should be on the grill and 2) is rather disgusting if you've ever taken a biology or food safety course
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the danger lies in the belief that a bite or an eye gouge will get the practioner out of ANY situation (not that i'm saying you have that belief, i'm just saying that it is a common misconception)
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You bring up a great point here - not just about KM but about any style or "move." I've heard too many people say that their whatever-fu is unbeatable, and that's the most dangerous mindset you can possibly get into. If you're not scared in every fight you're fighting, you're too overconfident and WILL lose one day.
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also they are wrong about it being the best filipino martial art, being filipino myself i know what it is...
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Kali!!! Gimme a machete and it's party time!
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you distract the guy while your cousin hits him over the head with a pool cue. that my friend is where we shine!
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one thing I LOVE about filipino arts like kali/arnis/eskrima is that once you learn on one weapon, you know a LOT of weapons. Stick, pool cue, lead pipe, knife, machete, it's all the same concepts.
Well that and hitting shit with a 2 foot long chunk of bamboo is just fun