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Originally Posted by Elphaba
Host, I have read the 13 page letter, numerous interviews and watched Mike Wallace make a fool of himself. If you read and listen to his words carefully, he isn't denying the Holocaust but confronting the wrongs of WWII and asking why the Palestinians were required to give up their land to right those wrongs. He is repeatedly misquoted in our press about the whole "wipe Israel off the map" as well. With careful reading of his actual statement, you might conclude that he was in fact referring to a true "map" rather than the Jewish people.
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I missed Host's post here, or was that some kind of dig at me? I don't get it. Anyhow I didn't think Mike Wallace made a fool of himself, but you're certainly entitled to your opinion. As far as his Halocaust denial I was referring to this part:
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TIME: Have you considered that Iranian Jews are hurt by your comments denying that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust?
Ahmadinejad: As to the Holocaust, I just raised a few questions. And I didn't receive any answers to my questions. I said that during World War II, around 60 million were killed. All were human beings and had their own dignities. Why only 6 million? And if it had happened, then it is a historical event. Then why do they not allow independent research?
TIME: But massive research has been done.
Ahmadinejad: They put in prison those who try to do research. About historical events everybody should be free to conduct research. Let's assume that it has taken place. Where did it take place? So what is the fault of the Palestinian people? These questions are quite clear. We are waiting for answers.
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Who puts who in prison for trying to do research? Anyone who says we have to "assume" the holocaust occured, as if it's still up in the air, isn't exactly in touch...with anything--including reality. How carefully do you suggest we read statements like this? I'm sorry but these questions
are quite clear:
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An extract from the diary of Lieutenant Colonel Mervin Willett Gonin DSO who was
among the first British soldiers to liberate Bergen-Belsen in 1945.
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I can give no adequate description of the Horror Camp in which my men and myself were to spend the next month of our lives. It was just a barren wilderness, as bare as a chicken run. Corpses lay everywhere, some in huge piles, sometimes they lay singly or in pairs where they had fallen. It took a little time to get used to seeing men women and childen collapse as you walked by them and to restrain oneself from going to their assistance. One had to get used early to the idea that the individual just did not count. One knew that five hundred a day were dying and that five hundred a day were going on dying for weeks before anything we could do would have the slightest effect. It was, however, not easy to watch a child choking to death from diptheria when you knew a tracheotomy and nursing would save it, one saw women drowning in their own vomit because they were too weak to turn over, and men eating worms as they clutched a half loaf of bread purely because they had to eat worms to live and now could scarcely tell the difference. Piles of corpses, naked and obscene, with a woman too weak to stand proping herself against them as she cooked the food we had given her over an open fire; men and women crouching down just anywhere in the open relieving themselves of the dysentary which was scouring their bowels, a woman standing stark naked washing herself with some issue soap in water from a tank in which the remains of a child floated. --Source: Imperial War museum
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What MA is claiming again and again is that moral relativity dictates that his people have the right to nuclear weapons, free trade, etc. But I'm not willing to agree to having moral equivalence with a person who would say the above.
I am a little let down that the U.S. press has now passed up two opportunities to question Ahmadinejad on his
alleged role in the 1979 hostage crisis. Not that I would expect him to be honest, but Mike Wallace is famous for making people squirm on issues like this.