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Old 08-24-2006, 10:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by flstf
I don't know how to explain the injustice other than the fact that the world is just not fair. Most of the countries in the world took land that was inhabited by someone else and those people probably took it from someone else and so on.. In most cases which side you pick depends on whether you benefit or not. In the case of Israel verses Islamic extremists I choose to not support the Islamic extremists.
IMO, you made a reasonable statement, and then you "picked a side".
Why did you omit "extremists", after, "In the case of Israel"? Isn't anyone who kills others to take their land, or to attempt to take it back, by definition, an "extremist"?

Weren't the states of Georgia and Illinois, and the federal government, in the 1830's, extremists? If you "side" with Israel, wouldn't you also have to "side" with the descendants of the native American Cherokee and the Miami, to be consistent in the rationale of your "sidedness"?

Does the rhetoric of a "side", earn that "side" the "extremist" label, as in "we are committed to driving the zionist devils into the sea, via jihad", but the actual violence that a "side" commits, either against members of the other "side", or in the 1830's in the US, and in Israel, today.....the violence committed, both against the other "side", and against the established law on their own "side", earn an "extremist" label?

Maybe even asking these questions is "frowned upon", in the earlier posted axiom of:
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Sometimes in life its important to grow a backbone and pick a side, not waffle around trying to find the evil in good and the good in evil.
...and maybe followed, appropriately, with:
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer
By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 5, 2002; Page A02

Bush, wearing khakis and a knit shirt, was holding a driver in his gloved left hand. The rest of his foursome, including his father, former president George H.W. Bush, was waiting. However incongruous the setting, the president plunged ahead. "There are a few killers who want to stop the peace process that we have started, and we must not let them," he said. "I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers."

His business out of the way, Bush barely paused for breath before saying, <b>"Thank you. Now watch this drive."</b>
I think that the:
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....grow a backbone and pick a side, not waffle around ....
is a great way to encourage the incuriousity so endemic in the current US president....and in his enablers, his supporters....... incuriousity that has already initiated and or, encouraged a horrifying number of entirely avoidable maimed and killed "bystanders", all over the globe...and that, IMO, is observable "evil".

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