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As far as i'm concerned, we don't know how old the universe is, we just know how long its been since the big bang.... I'm mean, all matter existed before the big bang, it was just really, really small. Right?
But in the interest of not threadjacking, I voted for 15 billion, because the universe is at least that old.
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