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Originally posted by Lebell
I don't know how much time you've spent in other areas of the country, nor what the specific situation is in Philly (having only been there once), but they do all those things here, frequently with forged identity papers. One of the things our HR director had to do was run the social security numbers she got to try to weed out the illegal immigrents and we still didn't get them all.
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How do you know you didn't get them all? That's kind of a paradoxical statement. "We know we didn't find all of them." Unless you found more later, how could know there were more?
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Originally posted by Lebell
There are also hospitals in Arizona that are facing bankruptcy because of the strain servicing all the illegal immigrants is putting on them not to mention the strain on the public school system for teaching children in two languages.
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These hospitals in Arizona, they do free work? Because most hospitals around here won't treat you until they know they're getting paid. As for teaching children two languages, well I think it's a good thing. You live on the border of a country with a different native language, you had better expect to be bilingual. Look at schools in Europe. They handle multiple languages.
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Originally posted by Lebell
No, you don't know how many live in Denver, but it is quite a few. Hang out at 38th and Federal any Friday or Saturday night, or better yet, during Cinco de Mayo when the streets are impassible for the residents to get an idea.
And they do indeed take the jobs no one wants. They could make decent wages for working very hard cutting meat. I learned just how hard they had to work and then some of them still got ripped off...by their own people. Still, most just want to earn a decent living and to be left alone.
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So...they're okay then, right? They do the jobs that otherwise wouldn't get done, and just want to be left alone. So what is the problem?
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Originally posted by Lebell
So I don't know if Bush's idea of an amnesty is good or not. I do know that something has to be done.
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Like what? I'm not looking for a concrete plan with dollar amounts and analysis, just a rough idea. Are you proposing ejecting them all? What else is there? Maybe Buchanan's wall? Let's abandon those values that we were founded on. You've only been to Philly once. Have you been to Ellis Island? Seen the inscription? Now have you been to Mexico? I would rather live in northeast Philly(one of the worst parts) than any place in that poverty-stricken country. Is it any surprise they want in? We've got a spectacular deal, living here. I understand why you want to keep it to yourself.