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Originally Posted by Toaster126
Oh yes, yes it is.
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No, no it isn't.
Survival is a competition, beating out your peers for social standing or career opportunities. If you're the best survivor, you make the most money, have the most friends, gain the most power, etc. Living is about the intrinsic value you take from your actions and progress. It's about challenging yourself because you want to gain more of that intrinsic value; instead of challenging yourself to be better than others. A child will play for hours with the cardboard box that an expensive toy came in because they have more fun with it- thier endless imagination lends more intrinsic value to the ambiguous cardboard box because it contains more opportunity for adventure and excitement.
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You can definitely measure lots of success by looking at others. Just remember that the goal is to constantly strive to better yourself, not to become better than those around you. It's a subtle but important difference. I do strongly agree that the intrinsic motivation is important; people shouldn't base their feelings and perceptions on strictly extrinsic things.
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I totally agree with you here
