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Old 03-25-2006, 07:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by guy44
Plus, Arroyo had essentially entered into a gentlemen's contract with the Red Sox where he agreed to make less money than he otherwise would with the understanding that he would get to play in Boston. Boston immediately trading him was a violation of this understanding.

So, yeah, he's still making millions; but come on, if you got screwed out of maybe 3 or 5 millions dollars by an employer, and were forced to live in another city because of it - no matter how much you will make, you'd be pissed too.
He repeats himself many times when he says "Boston gave him no guarantees."

I'm sorry, it is classless and shows no respect to Cincy or the team's fans.

It is not the attitude of a winner and if you are going to make massive amounts of money playing a game then you need to show a winning attitude.

I have said the same about Manny, TO and any athlete that basically says "fuck the fans, I want what I want and I don't care what the fans want."

It's bad business and it is the wrong attitude.

If Arroyo feels so screwed or upset, then show the baseball world that you truly meant what you said about playing in Boston and retire.

But he won't. He'll serve his "sentence" and keep badmouthing and feeling sorry for himself and a group of fans will all feel sorry for the multi-million dollar player who got traded.

Guess what? Most people can lose their jobs tomorrow and don't have million dollar guaranteed contracts. Most people work fucking hard for what they get and want and those are the people paying this man's contract.

So to me based on his statements he's a lowlife with no class, no respect and no professionalism.

I am sick of people defending players. I used to and you know what, they don't give a fuck about you. As long as they make their millions, they truly don't give a flying fuck about the fans. And until they do, I won't feel sorry for them.

It's not like the old days when you could stop a Johnny Bench and ask for his autograph or have your kid take a picture with Mike Schmidt or sit at the neighborhood bar after the game and share a drink with one of the "guys". Back in the day, players played for the money and most at least faked caring about the fans.

You think they do now? So why the Hell would anyone feel sorry for one or allow them excuses to say, "I'm going to play 3 years in Hell, and I'll try but my heart just won't be in it and when my time is up I'm on the first flight out."?

If you're the Reds how do you sell a pitcher with that kind of attitude.

It's like Millwood, everyone knew he was a 1 year rental in Cleveland. But he didn't sit there and moan and keep saying he wanted out. In fact it was the other way around, he kept praising Cleveland and talked about how much he wanted to stay. Even though it was BS it made it easier to root for the guy, support the guy and accept him as the rental he was.

Used to be when a player talked shit about his team or cried about a trade the fans jumped all over him for not being the professional. Today people make excuses and hand him tissues.

Used to be the fans and players developed great respect for each other.... now the players don't give a flying fuck how much you pay at the stadium, how much extra your cable bill is, what you think of them or even winning..... all they care about is the money. Screw everything else, not their concern.

Look at Sean Casey he could have gotten more money, but he gave Cincy the so called "hometown" discount and when he was traded he acted with class. He didn't cry about leaving Cincy for a true baseball hell hole like Pittsburgh, in fact he complimented his new team, said it's business and that he understood. He didn't rip CIncy, he didn't bad mouth Pittsburgh, he handled the trade professionally and with respect to the fans in both cities. That's the rarity, the exception.
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