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Originally Posted by stevo
Members of the TFP that frequent politics like to post news stories from the MSM they feel show what is going on in Iraq and what we are doing. But when right-leaning members like myself refute the stories or at the very least ignore them, we are blind sheeple regurgitating talking points. Well, I would like to tell you a story of why I don't believe the American press, why I put no weight into the stories that roll off the AP and into the NYT. I'll tell you why I think they have an agenda and their stories hold no water.
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seriously, no weight? is this just concerning iraq or you don't believe anything at all? what do you think of the christian science monitor? if you can give some examples of sensible "talking points," i might agree. however, i find that most of the arguments are too easily refuted, as they are presented as near-absolutes. we're fighting in iraq so we don't have to fight here...terrorists hate our freedom...save social security...fighting for peace...protect the sanctity of marriage...after a while, it becomes a more about the slogan/mantra than even cursory facts about the topic. i'm not saying talking points are 100% untrue, i just don't like how they often seem to circumvent original analysis and inconvenient details.
i also think the MSM have an agenda. their agenda is to make money and further their individual careers. their agenda is also to bore me with essentially useless information. the most popular news stories involve things like madonna and natalie whatshername, and they don't hesitate to write about them. they also fill space with a lot of other stories that i simply don't care about. dog swims 10 miles to find master. man kills family. bikes might not be safe. it's thankgiving and the airport is full. stamps went up by a cent. man has huge button collection.
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Originally Posted by stevo
I ask of you to not be so beholden to what the NYT says and not be so sure of yourselves. Because you think something is right, doesn't make it so. You claim to be progressive and open-minded, the open you mind and allow for the possibility that what you read in the press every day might not be the whole story. Open you mind to the idea that maybe those "GOP talking points" actually have some merit and are not empty babble put in the way to stiffle debate. Maybe this "conservative mind-set" is because we see things differently, and accept that there is more to the story than what Wolf Blitzer tells me.
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if you'll recall, all of the media was doing pretty intense cheerleading when the war started. did you also doubt them at that point, or are you newly dissatisfied?
i am fully aware that the news does not present the full story. i'm not sure how many people here take the sources you mention at their word. i would say the fact that many anti-bush topics are started with MSM links are more of a reflection of the posters' views than those of the sources.
what is comcast channel 40, by the way? that's not the same in every city. personally, i've found the "best" iraq news to be from iraqi local broadcasts which are on World Link TV.