Ah, so much work and deadlines, so little time. Unfortunately, I don't live in the forum
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was it by will that these ants opened the ceilings?
1- if it was by will.. Will is based on knowledge that air is going to be good for the community. How did they get this knowledge.
2- If it was by an accident that the ant knocked of the sand with its foot and air came in, then that information will not be recorded in the DNA for its offspring.
3- If it was by instinct then were did the instinct come from?
=> Therefor the only possibily left is they were programmed.
No, it wasn't by will, and neither was it any of your other options. As I stated initially, and I quote:
Originally Posted by nezmot
By accident, some of these ants might be predisposed to building structures with basic holes in their ceilings
Or in easier language, it was an accidendal (mutation) change in the 'program' (the genetically defined behavioral rules) that the ants followed that might have allowed for crude holes to be built into the roofs of their nests.
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Man, you are still relying on the thought that tons of mutations can result in new adaptive traits that serve that let the organism survive in its environments. It’s clear you haven't watched the videos. Lets say you spend the next 80 years of your life pouring chemicals on each other, mixing them and playing with them. Do you think you'll come up with a DNA cell or any cell? I'm sure it is not possible. Due to the complex structure of billions of molecules organized in order that contain genetic information which even till now, has not been fully discovered.
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he's using the words of Neitchez and Darwin and Hitler
While it seems fair to quote Darwin, why does he quote a Nietzche and Hitler? Those seem like highly biased (and completely inappropriate, and certainly non-scientific) sources to use to describe evolutionary theory. I'm surprised further that he didn't quote any contemporary scientists or biologists. You'd think that might be reasonable. Does he mention Richard Dawkins at any stage?
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Have you watched it? If yes, I think this is the movie about communism. It displays what disasters evolutionists and Darwinists made on humanity. The World Wars is based on the beleif that there was no God and killing became easy.
Btw, this reminds me of a talk in the Hadeeth, the book about the talking of the prophet. One person asked the prophet to tell him of a sign of the end of days. He said "When the Harj will increase". Harj means the increasing of death. It is supposed that in the end of days killing will increase and will be the result of people not believing that God exists and thinking therefore, no judgment. This will be the last days, after the Golden Age. Estimated length of the Golden Age to be 3000 years. That’s just something I remembered that relates here and I thought I would mention it. Btw, there’s a video about the Golden Age.
Since I reached this subject, let me tell about the Golden Age. This is the last age where poverty will be null. The earth will yield its crop 7 times. Everything will be plenty. Technology, food, energy, comfort to unexpectedly high extent. Human beings will be blessed like no other time. I think its sort of the "climax" of humanity, the major blessing before the end.
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While you purport to be asking "questions," I think perhaps you should seek to answer them first yourself before asking others. Asking a question like "How did the ants gain that knowledge" and using a programming metaphor (I too, am a programmer) belies nothing more than a misunderstanding of what evolution is and what it "causes". It is not a sentient being as your God is, but a molding force that passes the successful genetic information down through a population from those who are "successful" (reproduce the most). Failure is not catastrophic, and in fact failures can cascade down generation to generation (much like an omitted semicolon in C-based languages, should you chose to use that metaphor).
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Welcome to this thread, my questions had the answer in the question.
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was it by will that these ants opened the ceilings?
1- if it was by will.. Will is based on knowledge that air is going to be good for the community. How did they get this knowledge.
2- If it was by an accident that the ant knocked of the sand with its foot and air came in, then that information will not be recorded in the DNA for its offspring.
3- If it was by instinct then were did the instinct come from?
=> Therefor the only possibily left is they were programmed.
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1- How did they get this knowledge?
They cannot obtain that knowledge by themselves. Someone must have given it to them.
2- No question
3- If it was by instinct then were did the instinct come from?
It was given or programmed in them
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Yeay....It's been a while since we had a creationism thread.
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You’re welcome
Too bad, what can I say. These videos were really fun and informative. Islam is not a "non traditional" religion, if this has a meaning. I hope I can upload the videos on to the website I made directly. So you can get them from there.
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I give the Muslims credit.
While most Christian creationist 'scientists' are very poorly accredited and often down right ignorant of biology and geology, the Muslim equivalent is of higher caliber.
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Thank you, I also hope that Christians also can help with proofs. After all, we, humans, have the same genetic design so we must have been created by the same cause.
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I earned a masters in biology with several Muslim students and they were all looking for ways to prove gods hand in biology. They were very proud that a prominent biologist converted to Islam because he saw the truth in the Quran (last name is Moss, I forget his first name and I never tried to verify the story). They would send little 'proofs' of the divine nature of the Quran to each other in the campus mail.
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Its nice to know that you have met muslims, I'm sure they had helpful and non hostile attitude. The false advertisement of muslims as terrorists and bombers is sick. I don't think these people who blew up a church and killed are real muslims. Islam is a religion of peace and forgiveness. I condone all the acts of killing and bombing and I personally think its some kind of conspiracy by groups that wear masks and hide their faces and dress like muslims and try to do bad things and hurt innocent people; so as to portray a bad picture of islam.
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They still of course fail in the end but often you need to know more about biology to counter some of the arguments.
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They fail in university? That’s weird. Most people I knew who were with me in the 2 years engineering I studied and who prayed were honor students. And the university was tough. So tough that 50% of the engineering students in the first year, had to shift majors. Was kind of making me think, was God rewarding them for being good? I think so.
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Also Allah help you if you were a 'secular' Muslim in that group, but that’s another story.
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Thanks, Allah is helping me through work and life. I don't know what secular means but if this relates, I would say that I am a man of peace and pray to God and respect all religions.
Btw, I like your logo. Agent smith is my favorite actor in the Matrix movies. Probably I like him because he is always patient and logical no matter how much problems he has to solve.
General Q: so did you guys enjoy the movies?