Zyr

Background: I'm agnostic, so don't really have a clue about all this, but I do have a christian friend, who is probably the only christian person I really respect (aside from the people here) as most of them really don't even understand their own religion.

Anyway, he was telling me about the idea that people have, that if you follow these rules, you go to heaven, you don't you go to hell, (Salvation through deeds) which basically makes no sense.

The problem, is that as a human, you are decendent from Adam, and thus inheret the sins of him, which you can't get rid of, no matte how good you are. Only through accepting Jesus can you be absolved, at which point, all your sins are absolved. So, if you accept Christ, you win (heaven), no matter what you do, and if you don't, then you lose (hell). Now, this, in theory, would mean you could be a mass murderer, and still go to heaven, however, the trick is, that if you were a mass murderer, then you wouldn't be doing what Christ would want you to do, and thus would not be really accepting him.

Long story short, if you kill someone, or commit sucide, you're still ok, as long as it's the right thing by Christ.

(By the way, sorry for any inaccuracies in that explanation, this is 2nd hand information, which I can't remember exactly, and is basically my interpretation of my memory. If anyone wants to try and write that out better, by all mean, go ahead.)

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