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xepherys · 01-11-2006, 09:48 AM

Daoust-

God is God, but his demeanoer is certainly different between the two testaments. In the Old, He was wrathful and Vengeful against those who would not follow his path. The Jews were subjected to punishment MANY times for decades. Then some brilliant Jew would be like, "Hey! Remember how we used to do things?" and life would get better. In the New, He is a warm, fuzzy God that wants his son to be your ticket home. Aside from the Apocolypse, there isn't much bad in the New Testament.

As to the OP, remember that even in human terms, killing in the name of defense is not "murder". It can be "self-defense" or "manslaughter". Also note that these words are created by humans and interpreted by humans and have nothing to do directly with Gods will.

Personally, I am a non-denominational spiritualist. I believe that, primarily, all organized religions have it more or less right, but that in practice ALL of them fall short. Your relationship with god (note that when speaking of my own beliefs, there is no capitalization) is a personal one. It should not reflect your church attendance, what book you read (Koran, Bible, et cetera), or what day you worship. It should not reflect what you call god, whether there are more than one god or not, or how you communicate with him or her. In my beliefs, EVERYTHING is about intent. Words are human creation, and god cares not for them. THey make no difference as they limit intent. Intentions, however, are divine. They are the true meaning behind everything, even when words cannot describe the specific intent. When one is TRULY and WHOLLY in love... can they really express what they feel in words? Poets and writers have tried for ages, but to no real end. When you have true HATE in your heart for someone, which is within human nature to easily do, can you say how you feel? Or do you stammer in your anger? Real emotion and intent has no words to describe it. The powers that be have no use for our words or our labels and judge solely on intent of the heart and the soul. IMHO of course...

01-11-2006, 09:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
xepherys <3 TFP Location: 17TLH2445607250	Daoust- God is God, but his demeanoer is certainly different between the two testaments. In the Old, He was wrathful and Vengeful against those who would not follow his path. The Jews were subjected to punishment MANY times for decades. Then some brilliant Jew would be like, "Hey! Remember how we used to do things?" and life would get better. In the New, He is a warm, fuzzy God that wants his son to be your ticket home. Aside from the Apocolypse, there isn't much bad in the New Testament. As to the OP, remember that even in human terms, killing in the name of defense is not "murder". It can be "self-defense" or "manslaughter". Also note that these words are created by humans and interpreted by humans and have nothing to do directly with Gods will. Personally, I am a non-denominational spiritualist. I believe that, primarily, all organized religions have it more or less right, but that in practice ALL of them fall short. Your relationship with god (note that when speaking of my own beliefs, there is no capitalization) is a personal one. It should not reflect your church attendance, what book you read (Koran, Bible, et cetera), or what day you worship. It should not reflect what you call god, whether there are more than one god or not, or how you communicate with him or her. In my beliefs, EVERYTHING is about intent. Words are human creation, and god cares not for them. THey make no difference as they limit intent. Intentions, however, are divine. They are the true meaning behind everything, even when words cannot describe the specific intent. When one is TRULY and WHOLLY in love... can they really express what they feel in words? Poets and writers have tried for ages, but to no real end. When you have true HATE in your heart for someone, which is within human nature to easily do, can you say how you feel? Or do you stammer in your anger? Real emotion and intent has no words to describe it. The powers that be have no use for our words or our labels and judge solely on intent of the heart and the soul. IMHO of course...