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Originally Posted by ziadel
first off, CETME's are the softest shooting large caliber guns I've ever had the pleasure of shooting.
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I've heard that opinion before - I'll give you that, but we're talking about the G3. And I've also heard the G3 has a sharper recoil than both the CETME and the FAL for that matter.
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second, these are military rifles, they all have crap triggers.
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Yeah, but I heard the G3 stock triggers are worse than the M1A1 and FALs.
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did you buddy's have G3's or CAI Cetme's?
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Both of them had the HK G3 - one of them is a dealer. The other fella payed full price (minus any LEO discount, I'd guess). As I mentioned above, I know one guy with a CETME who adores it.
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theres a difference, a big difference, and I agree that HK g3's arent worth what they cost, but that point is moot now that we have JLD enterprises making HK clones, on HK tooling that shoot BETTER than HK G3's..
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I don't know anything about the clones - Are they really better than the G3?
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Originally Posted by ziadel
G3's are definately more accurate, and you'll never get close (in full-auto trim) to the ROF produced by a roller locking firearm with a gas system...
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Affecting the accuracy of the stock FAL is its relatively lousy sights for target shooting - But the same sights are quite sufficient in a battle rifle.
High full auto ROF is
not a mark of excellence (or even desirable) in a battle rifle , so that comparison is entirely irrelevant.
The issue of full auto is even less important when you're talking about .308. Have you ever shot .308 full auto without a bipod? It's comical. Its just about impossible to master in an FAL and I understand the G3 is no different in that respect.
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I've said it before, the CETME family is the only weapon I know of that will continue to function with it's extractor removed. The Kalashnikov's won't even do that.
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How does this make the CETME a better weapon?
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I'm not sure if your saying that the G3 is easy to manufacture as a disadvantage to the weapon, but theres nothing wrong with a stamped receiver. stampings are fast and fast is cheap, and cheap is good.
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[cheapshot mode]I was just saying it's cheap. I'm glad you agree. But why would I want to pay $1300 for a cheap gun?[/cheapshot mode]
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Originally Posted by ziadel
I can tell you REALLY like world.guns.ru
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That site really helps me sound knowledgable in forums ...
Remember, you started this exchange by taking the first shot at FALs, pal
