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Originally Posted by longbough
I've never used a G3 but at least 2 of my buddies sold theirs because they hated how the "delayed roller" amplified the recoil of .308. They also mentioned that the trigger was "cheap." I can't testify to that since I've never handled, much less shot, one. One of them switched to FALs (he bought more than one) and the other is waiting until he can afford one.
The G3 has an interesting history. In the mid-1956 Germany adopted the FAL for its military and called it the G1 ... however, Belgium refused to sell them the manufacturing license that would allow German-built FALs. So Germany purchased the manufacturing license for the Spanish CETME rifle and turned it over to the HK. In 1959 the slightly modified CETME/HK G3 was adopted by W. Germany.
The key reason of popularity of the G3 in many countries including Greece, Iran, Mexico, Norway, Pakistan, Portugal, Sweden and Turkey is that it is much simpler and cheaper to manufacture, than its major contemporary rivals - Belgian FN FAL and US M14. The G3 is built using as many stamped parts as possible. The receiver is stamped from sheet steel. The trigger unit housing along with pistol handle frame, also are stamped from steel and hinged to the receiver using the cross-pin in the front of the trigger unit, just behind the magazine housing. Earliest G3 rifles also featured stamped handguards and CETME-type flip-up rear diopter sights.
Sorry if it sounds like I'm bashing the G3 - I've never shot one so I can't testify to any personal experience with it. I agree that the G3 is a damn pretty gun, but I'm not sure it's worth the inflated HK price for a modern CETME.
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first off, CETME's are the softest shooting large caliber guns I've ever had the pleasure of shooting.
second, these are military rifles, they all have crap triggers.
did you buddy's have G3's or CAI Cetme's?
theres a difference, a big difference, and I agree that HK g3's arent worth what they cost, but that point is moot now that we have JLD enterprises making HK clones, on HK tooling that shoot BETTER than HK G3's..
G3's are definately more accurate, and you'll never get close (in full-auto trim) to the ROF produced by a roller locking firearm with a gas system...
I've said it before, the CETME family is the only weapon I know of that will continue to function with it's extractor removed. The Kalashnikov's won't even do that.
I'm not sure if your saying that the G3 is easy to manufacture as a disadvantage to the weapon, but theres nothing wrong with a stamped receiver. stampings are fast and fast is cheap, and cheap is good.
and the HK is not a 'modern cetme' theres really no difference between the guns, the HK has different sights, thats about all the difference you'd notice. a LOT of parts are interchangeable.
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