filtherton

Moral relativism? This from someone who seemingly justifies bush's failures by comparing them to clinton's? From someone who curses the terrorists inhumanity and then at the very least tacitly supports the use of torture? Did i really seek to excuse such behavior? Do me a favor and point out where exactly i did so. If you read what i originally posted, you would see that i said that i think such behavior is common in the human animal. I didn't seek to justify anything. Despite what you may think, just because america has done something, doesn't mean it's justified. What i was trying to point out is that the actions of individuals within a group reflect more on those individuals than on the group as a whole.

Are we really at a point where i need to actually come out and say that i personally believe that indoctrinating children with hatred is wrong? Because if that's the case, then i might wonder why you, ustwo, believe that it's okay to rape puppies? I only ask this because you have never actually claimed that you didn't believe that it was okay to rape puppies, so i just don't know.

Why is this thread relevant? Because we are currently at war with a certain subset of arabs. If this were a story about any other group, say perhaps christians, no one would care, because hey, people are fucked up and do shit like this all the time. The fact that all different groups of humans are prone to such behavior means that the fact that the perpetrators in this instance are muslim is a nonissue. This isn't a function of my opinion as much as it is a function of the context of human behavior that i sought to provide.

If someone starts a thread about reprehensible behavior that focuses solely on one specific group that is currently engaging in such behavior even though there are many groups who currently engage in such behavior then it could be argued that the basis for the thread is a display of some form (maybe unintentional) discrimination. My goal was to point out that americans are no strangers to such behavior, and then i went on to say that SUCH BEHAVIOR IS COMMON IN THE HUMAN ANIMAL, not just in arabs. The "american example" is a writing tool that's sometimes called an "attention getter". It is used to get the attention of your audience; make them want to read the rest of what you wrote. I assumed that since many of the people who would read this would be of the "america shits solid 24k gold while shooting a steaming load of freedom all over the dirty face of tyranny" variety that it would get their attention. The assumption is that they will then read the rest of what you wrote too, but i guess sometimes that isn't the case.

Don't tell me about tacit support. Saddam and Iraq had the at certain points the tacit and explicit support of our government and line toers such as yourself long before i was even in junior high school. I "supported" hussein and support iran in the same way that people like you "support" the deaths of american soldiers.

Feel free now to not respond to anything i posted, or respond to a sentence or two that i posted, and then complain about how everyone who disagrees with you is so unreasonable.

Perhaps i was concerned with the only natural course this thread could have taken without any kind of context, namely "A-rabs are bad" Followed by "No they're not all bad" followed by "but obviously that actions of these arabs means that they're all bad" followed by "nope" then "yep" then "nope" then "nobody listens to me because all of my arguments are chiseled out of a stone made of pure reason and everyone else is just unwilling to listen to my tautaologies", etc.

If you read the rest of what i wrote, i clearly stated that i think that all humans are capable of such behavior. I used americans as an example, i could have used britain, certain african countries, the kkk, hitler, many forms of organized religion, etc. If all you got out of what i wrote was the fact that i cited america as an example, well, you should stop pretending that you're the only one here who likes being an american.