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qweds · 11-10-2005, 05:22 PM

snow wombat,

i appreciate that you're from canada, really i do eh! but i don't think you're making much sense.

alansmithee,

i think you're hitting on what it is i'm talking about. i'm prety damn sure i'm not a prude or sexually pent up or anything of that sort. i've dated that sort of person and saw a strikingly stark contrast to myself.

perhaps to reiterate or clarify, i have absolutely no problems/qualms/objections etc to all sorts of sexual behaviour that are not endorsed or even condemned by the various patriarchal western religions.

as a matter of fact i meant the catholic comment to be facetious, but enough of that.

again returning to snowwombat, i think you're argument loses its edge when you make it so extreme. while certainly there are parents who would disown a child for undertaking that sort of work that isn't per say the issue i'm concerned with.

perhaps it's just that we've created and given our placid approval to an entire industry the reduces women to sex objects. what, we as hot blooded young (or even not so young) men might wonder could be wrong with that.

well perhaps nothing, who knows. for myself however the problem is such. i find it phenomenally difficult if not impossible to consider a woman in any sense until I have made a decision as to whether i'd like to put it to her or not.

clearly such a mindset is not entirely owing to porn but it really isn't helping the situation any.

perhaps i'm exagerating things and looking to far into them but i swear we're all huge hypocrits. we purport to live in a progressive egalitarian society and yet one of theprime tools of that society, the internet is 95% full of websites that denigrate humans into unthinking sex machines.

well i think i've rambled on long enough here, off to see john cale, thanks for all the coments and lively discussion ladies and gents.

11-10-2005, 05:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
qweds has been Location: Chicago	snow wombat, i appreciate that you're from canada, really i do eh! but i don't think you're making much sense. alansmithee, i think you're hitting on what it is i'm talking about. i'm prety damn sure i'm not a prude or sexually pent up or anything of that sort. i've dated that sort of person and saw a strikingly stark contrast to myself. perhaps to reiterate or clarify, i have absolutely no problems/qualms/objections etc to all sorts of sexual behaviour that are not endorsed or even condemned by the various patriarchal western religions. as a matter of fact i meant the catholic comment to be facetious, but enough of that. again returning to snowwombat, i think you're argument loses its edge when you make it so extreme. while certainly there are parents who would disown a child for undertaking that sort of work that isn't per say the issue i'm concerned with. perhaps it's just that we've created and given our placid approval to an entire industry the reduces women to sex objects. what, we as hot blooded young (or even not so young) men might wonder could be wrong with that. well perhaps nothing, who knows. for myself however the problem is such. i find it phenomenally difficult if not impossible to consider a woman in any sense until I have made a decision as to whether i'd like to put it to her or not. clearly such a mindset is not entirely owing to porn but it really isn't helping the situation any. perhaps i'm exagerating things and looking to far into them but i swear we're all huge hypocrits. we purport to live in a progressive egalitarian society and yet one of theprime tools of that society, the internet is 95% full of websites that denigrate humans into unthinking sex machines. well i think i've rambled on long enough here, off to see john cale, thanks for all the coments and lively discussion ladies and gents. __________________ tim(mah)