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Originally Posted by NoSoup
Reading over your original post, I'm going to have to mark myself down in the "Strongly Disagree" category.
To be honest, most of what you wrote is just stereotypical B.S - how can you possibly ascertain that black men - as a whole - hate black women...
I don't really think that this is accurate, not by a long shot. In my mind, it just read as more stereotypical bullshit. "Sorry folks - if you're a black man, you have no education, you don't matter to society, and your opinion doesn't matter. Date a white chick"
Eh, I suppose I could go on and on, but I'll leave it at that. No offence intended, we just simply don't share the same view  |
I figured it would take all of ten minutes for someone to say just about what you said.
I know it's easy to pick apart what people say on forums because the statements aren't 100% applicable and perfect.
Try resisting that impluse briefly enough to think about the point as a whole, and not deconstruct it.
OBVIOUSLY all Black men to not hate black women.
OBVIOUSLY all Black men are not in jail, have no education, etc.
I am not going to point out all the instances where what I'm discussing exists, because then I'd just play the "let's pick it apart point by point" game, which is a waste of time.
Forums have this overwhelming tendancy to do a point-by-point "you're wrong because" game, and it's really boring. Okay? It misses the point of the whole discussion.
I've been here for years, and it got old a LOOOONG time ago.
Instead of bypassing my point entirely, and saying "you're wrong 'cause all black men don't hate black women" try, just for one second to ask yourself if it's possible to consider the larger question.
I mean, dude, I'm not mad at you, I'm dissapointed because it was obvious when I wrote the post that someone would come right out with what you did.
It takes all the point out of posting when you can anticipate the responses you'll get, and be right. Maybe it's my fault for somehow failing to put things more clearly.
If I had to break-out my pertenent points, they'd go like this:
Why is there such negativity in black popular art forms towards black women?
It's surely possible to say that "gee, white men put out negative images of white women, so you're an idiot," but that's a cheap way of bypassing the point.
It is obvious that there IS a shitty "bitch" image created (was it?) and maintained by black men in black art, most obviously music. IN THAT CASE >>The case we're trying to focus on for discussion<< can we discuss possible reasons for that?
It is also provable that black women are gaining wealth faster than black men. Can we discuss if there's a possible issue between black women and men there?