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thingstodo · 08-18-2005, 03:23 AM

From your article:

"A common concern about doing cardio in the fasted state, especially if it’s done with high intensity, is the possibility of losing muscle. After an overnight fast, glycogen, blood glucose and insulin are all low. As we’ve already concluded, this is an optimum environment for burning fat. Unfortunately, it may also be an optimum environment for burning muscle because carbohydrate fuel sources are low and levels of the catabolic stress hormone cortisol are high. It sounds like morning cardio might be a double-edged sword, but there are ways to avert muscle loss."

Notice the last sentence. I think yo are so focused on defending your point (and I appreciate you saying we could both be right) that you haven't heard my KEY point.

I agree with wwhat you are saying, as long as you understand this caveat. You need to train your body to process fat at higher intensity levels so your body doesn't rob muscles as much for fuel. That's what can make the difference and make you the most effective.

So understand, I don't disagree with morning HIIT with no food - you just need to train to be effective there by building a base. And perhaps you've done that with all your lisfting. I used to think the same way until I spent the time training at lower levels so I could be the most effective at higher levels - food or no food. Like my 2 hour workout the other day Normally I would have used a gel pack half way through but now I can do the 2 hours with no food and not be starving at the end. Even though I do hit a shake and fruit for immediate recovery after.

As far as metabolism after working out, lifting cranks it for 48 hours where cardio only last up to 8 hours.

We're both on the same team here.

08-18-2005, 03:23 AM	#33 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	From your article: "A common concern about doing cardio in the fasted state, especially if it’s done with high intensity, is the possibility of losing muscle. After an overnight fast, glycogen, blood glucose and insulin are all low. As we’ve already concluded, this is an optimum environment for burning fat. Unfortunately, it may also be an optimum environment for burning muscle because carbohydrate fuel sources are low and levels of the catabolic stress hormone cortisol are high. It sounds like morning cardio might be a double-edged sword, but there are ways to avert muscle loss." Notice the last sentence. I think yo are so focused on defending your point (and I appreciate you saying we could both be right) that you haven't heard my KEY point. I agree with wwhat you are saying, as long as you understand this caveat. You need to train your body to process fat at higher intensity levels so your body doesn't rob muscles as much for fuel. That's what can make the difference and make you the most effective. So understand, I don't disagree with morning HIIT with no food - you just need to train to be effective there by building a base. And perhaps you've done that with all your lisfting. I used to think the same way until I spent the time training at lower levels so I could be the most effective at higher levels - food or no food. Like my 2 hour workout the other day Normally I would have used a gel pack half way through but now I can do the 2 hours with no food and not be starving at the end. Even though I do hit a shake and fruit for immediate recovery after. As far as metabolism after working out, lifting cranks it for 48 hours where cardio only last up to 8 hours. We're both on the same team here. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.