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Old 07-06-2005, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is a Devil's Advocate a "troll"...?

I've always resented the "troll" labels casually used in forums alike because the label itself seems to be vague or somehow misleading. What is a troll exactly?

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From the fishing term. As a noun, synonymous with flamebait. As a verb, to post controversial or provocative messages in a deliberate attempt to provoke flames.
That is about the best definition I can find online. Through this definition, I would argue that a troll is a very effective communicator, if he can compose a thread or post so craftily that it incites anger in many other board members. A poor communicator, on the other hand, would be summarily ignored. A post that "provokes flames" obviously contains subtance that merits discussion, even if angrily discussed.

Oftentimes in TFP and other forums, I hear the word 'troll' used to identify someone defending a position they do not believe. In the formal Debates I've participated in, the best way to prepare for a "meet" was to present the opposition's case. Through doing this, your personal bias of "being right" destroys your hatred for the opposition's position. You also more clearly see their weaknesses and can use them in presenting your original case. While I wouldn't compare TFP to the structured rigor of a debate, there is a certain value to being the "devil's advocate." I personally believe that everything I have learned, I've done so by challenging my own beliefs. I do this by attempting to validate the beliefs directly contrary to my own. For someone who is pro-abortion, attempting to argue a pro-life standpoint is very valuable in seeing the other sides' position -- and solidifying their own.

Similarly, I pondered posting a thread in Philosophy or Politics vehemently defending a belief not held by myself, but the last person to do so was labeled a troll. Is it the motivation for the thread that seperates a troll from a devil's advocate? I personally enjoy defending something I do not believe in, because it gives me a valuable perspective -- but I do not wish to be labeled a troll. My vacous explanation aside, what qualities seperate a troll from someone who is playing a "devil's advocate?"
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