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Originally Posted by OFKU0
Come on Charlatan, you can do better than that. It's hot but not hot enough to make delusional statements like that.
Yes the opposition with the help of the Bloc tried to defeat the budget. But guess what, that's the role of the opposition. Although we have a Liberal government in place in no way means the Liberals are Canada's party. Hardly, just look at the seats held by the Tories and the rest of the Commons.
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It is *not* the job of the opposition to bring down the govenment or even defeat the budget. It is there job to temper the debate by offering an opposing point of view. When what is being done by the govenment runs contrary to their party's platform. If that leads to bringing down the government that is another issue.
Harper's sour grapes over the BQ supporting this bill is just that, sour grapes. All he is doing is exacerbating the issue of Quebec seperation. I don't ascribe to Martin's arguement that Harper will mean the rending of Canada but if Harper continues to play this tune I may change my mind.
All Harper does by saying this is further convince the *many* voters in Quebec that he knows nothing about what matters to them. That he belittles their representation in the house of commons by suggesting that the rest of Canada would take issue with their representation in the house of commons.
Politically, it is a serious misstep in French/English relations... and I don't think Harper cares. It seems, he'd rather consolidate his Western base than pander to Ontario and Quebec and as such is staying the course.
You seem hung up on how Martin portrays Harper and seem convinced that those who don't vote for him are too stupid or too snowed by Martin's message. I don't see this at all.
The Canadian people do not trust Harper because his party (and by extension him) comes off as socially conservative. Fiscal conservatives are one thing but mess with the centrist position socially and you will be in hot water with the public.
On the opposite side of this, the NDP continually get's smeared as tax and spend despite being committed to balanced budgets.
This is politics.
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Originally Posted by OFKU0
Now for some serious stuff. Who wants to bet that on Canada Day, Martin mentions same sex marriages before telling the sheep we are the best country in the world. I'm offering 10-1 odds as of now.
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Of course he is going to say this... what leader wouldn't? If Harper were in power he would mention how he'd defended taditional marriage before telling the sheep we are the best county in the world.
It is the leader's job to say things like this. Would you rather he got up on Canada's birthday and said it all sucks and the country is in the shitter? That's the opposition's job, no?